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Culling Old Croakers from the Herd with ObamaCare

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Comrades,

Many ObamaCare cuts to granny's Medicare were planned to go into effect after the election, and not before (wink, wink) so our comrades in power wouldn't have to do any 'splaining to the masses.

Well, now, here are the ones going into effect this year:

Medicare Advantage cuts begin- Medicare Advantage was a Bush plan to make supplemental insurance affordable for Old Croakers, but, unfairly, it took business away from Dear Leader's most favored crony capitalist organization, AARP who will now be able to get more Old Croakers to purchase supplemental insurance through them.

No longer allowed to use FSA, HSA, HRA, Archer MSA distributions for over-the counter medicines - I don't understand quite what this means.

Medicare cuts to home health begin- This will get granny to get the heck out of her house, and into a nursing home sooner than later.

Wealthier seniors ($85k/$170k) begin paying higher Part D premiums (not indexed for inflation in Parts B/D) - Hey, from each according to his ability to each according to his need.

Medicare reimbursement cuts when seniors use diagnostic imaging like MRIs, CT scans, etc.- Old Croakers are just not worthy of this kind of advanced medicine. This will get them off the planet a little sooner.

Medicare cuts begin to ambulance services, ASCs, diagnostic labs, and durable medical equipment - Granny better call AARP right away and get that supplemental insurance, or she'll be paying more when she's fallen and can't get up.

Impose new annual tax on brand name pharmaceutical companies - What better way for Dear Leader to get a piece of the action from drug companies?

Prohibition on Medicare payments to new physician-owned hospitals- I hope this doesn't drive physician-run hospitals to the free market. People might find out that health care costs can be brought down when third parties aren't involved.

Penalties for non-qualified HSA and Archer MSA distributions double (to 20%) - I don't know what this means.

Seniors prohibited from purchasing power wheelchairs unless they first rent for 13 months - What? Wheelchair companies won't be able to scam Medicare so easily any more? Well, they can just charge exorbitant rental fees.

Employers required to report value of health benefits on W-2- Get ready to pay higher taxes on income you'll never see. It's for the greater good, don't you know.

Steps towards health insurance administrative simplification (reduced paperwork, etc) begins (five year process) - Oh, yes, these 5 year plans always go as planned, don't they? I can't wait to see the results of this.

Seniors who hit Part D “donut hole “in 2010 receive $250 check (3/15/11) - And of course, this money goes directly into the pocket of big Pharma.

New Medicare cuts to long-term care hospitals begin (7/1/11) - They'd better figure out a way to shorten granny's stay when she's reached this point (wink, wink).

Additional Medicare cuts to hospitals and cuts to nursing homes and inpatient rehab facilities begin (fiscal 2012)

New tax on all private health insurance policies to pay for comp. eff. research (plan years beginning fiscal 2012)

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Leninka wrote:
No longer allowed to use FSA, HSA, HRA, Archer MSA distributions for over-the counter medicines - I don't understand quite what this means.


Penalties for non-qualified HSA and Archer MSA distributions double (to 20%) - I don't know what this means.


Oh it's quite simple Leninka, the government is changing the rules. You see things like HSA (Health Savings Account) or MSA (Medical Savings Acct.) was like an IRA that allowed people to save (invest) money tax deferred which they could then use to pay for medical care. It was like being self insured. Later, if the money wasn't all spent on health needs, the account holder or his heirs could spend the money anyway they want by just paying the taxes due.

Now the government says you can't spend your money on non-prescription drugs. However, if you get your doctor to write a prescription for a non-prescription drug, you can side step the new rule.

As for the penalty? Well, you know how the IRS charges you a 10% penalty for early withdrawals (before age 59.5) from your IRA? Well, they do the same if you take money from your HSA/MSA for non-health related purchases...now it's a 20% penalty. Bear in mind that when all this started any excess money in your MSA could be spent on anything without any penalty.

Next I suppose they'll pass a law that if any money is left in the account after a person dies it must be forfeited to the government. Because as we all know, it's not really your money is it? So you can't leave it to your heirs. That wouldn't be fair.

Oh and if you think you can simply roll your HSA into your IRA to skirt the new rules the IRS has thought of that gimmick. HSA's can only be rolled over into a new HSA.

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That's just beautiful, Comrade Whoopie. We can't have anyone hanging on to their own money, now can we?

Here is a link to all of the cuts HTML:

https://www.healthreformscam.com/2010/0 ... e-package/

And here is a link to a secret government PDF file (because they don't want to make it too easy for you to cut and paste).

https://republicans.waysandmeans.house. ... elinel.pdf

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And once again, here's Alan Grayson to remind us why this plan is so much better-



I am so glad the democraps don't want us to Die Quickly.

Oddly enough, most of us oldsters would have liked for them to have left it alone. We would have liked to cut the corruption out, but the Democrat plan multiplies corruption a thousand-fold.


And by the way, Andy Griffith must have been bought off. Or he just has Alzheimers. The slobbering old fool.

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=andy+griffith+health+care+ad

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This is excellent news most faithful Comrade Leninka, I was just in for a bit of wallet thievery Party fund procurement: https://thepeoplescube.com/peoples-blog ... tml#114967

...and now the pickings will be multiplied exponentially, thanks, (*ahhhrrrmmm*), to our beloved Dear Leader Obama, of course.

Please drop your wallets in the basket next to the bunker door, it will make it much easy than the usual methods.

Hail Obamacare!

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Comrades,
There are some very lame reporters that are offended by using the term "ObamaCare",
so that word will never again be used.

A better description is "Obamacide", that works for a cause of death as well.

The wording appears to have been the choice of a functional illiterate.

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Obamacide? Is that a MarXmas present just for me? Or do I have to share it with the whole collective?

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It is truly amazing how these neanderthals go on & on about these fictitious "death panels" and keep trying to label us as the "party of death".

Anyone with a functional brain (ie - us) can clearly see that by the enduring grace of our benevolent leader these useless eaters are simply being "renewed". They should be thanking us!

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Palin = the great deceiver.

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ah yes, we knew dear Leader would find way to impressed Alinksy, did we not?! Giving granny and gramps the Old Croaker "take one for Obama" Award, is definitely the thing to do. Do we not know, most of these reichwinger teabaggers are the aging old goats and nanny's? Of course we do! And what better plan than for them to "die quickly" like we said the Rthuglicans wanted.

oh, wait . . . but I'm!!! . . . . . . oh silly me. This is not for the Party Elite, now is it. wheee, that was close.

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I have so much of the better use for the useless Old Croakers elderly peoples. Why not just be for delivering them to the islamists feedom fighters who can using them for jihad the good fight against infidels capitalist pigs? Since they are to be deadened anyway they should be for going out with a bang. And the Heaven can always be for having a few more martyrs.

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Mrs Al Czarweary wrote:I have so much of the better use for the useless Old Croakers elderly peoples. Why not just be for delivering them to the islamists feedom fighters who can using them for jihad the good fight against infidels capitalist pigs? Since they are to be deadened anyway they should be for going out with a bang. And the Heaven can always be for having a few more martyrs.

My dear Mrs. Al, you have been struck with such brilliantness that I am almost beside myself with gulag delight. And, as a bonus, will award you the award of the day. (please, there is no need to thank me, just send your check, money order or paypal payment to myself, asap, as it is a long cold winter)

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Fraulein Pulloskies wrote:there is no need to thank me, just send your check, money order or paypal payment to myself, asap, as it is a long cold winter)

Frau, I hope you invest some of the money you get from selling these awards to getting a new hinge for your wooden leg. The old one makes a squeaking sound which I find quite distracting.

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Wooden leg? Frau, I hope you've paid the new special taxes on that leg or it may be taken in to State custody.

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Ah yes, the freedom-of-choice angle again. Obama shows us once again how much greater a prog he is by allowing seasoned citizens the choice to remain "alive while voting Democrat", or to join the ranks of Acorn™ approved NecroVoters for Change™ for Obama!

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</prog> Of course the worst part is, if these oldsters hadn't been forced into buying into a state run medical care system in the first place... they ahh oh I don't know... might have bought into private plans instead. And then where would we be? I'd like to see a way to get rid of medicare for the most part and transition people out of the bondage of a government program.

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Colonel 7.62 wrote:</prog> Of course the worst part is, if these oldsters hadn't been forced into buying into a state run medical care system in the first place... they ahh oh I don't know... might have bought into private plans instead. And then where would we be? I'd like to see a way to get rid of medicare for the most part and transition people out of the bondage of a government program.


I never bought into anything. All I ever did was work my ass off taking care of my family. I paid the maximum every year for 30 years (until I ended up in the hospital near death).

Now I get a whole great big $819 a month SS disability.

I would a whole lot rather have not been cheated out of my life's work to begin with.

I am the one who was robbed according to my abilities.

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I FIND THE SQUEEKING MOST RELAXING. And yes, I paid all governemnt taxes, fines and requirement. Why would I not. I am not Charles Rangel. And any monies gained go to a good cause as always! In fact, I am still acquiring funds so that I might buried my dear beloved late ex-husband, Mr. Pulloskies so he will have a delightful, clear last resting place for his last restings. These things are not cheap!!

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Comrade Scratchanitch,

We've all done our part. I contributed for 44 years and take great satisfaction that I was a small part of the Six Trillion dollars that we "Baby Boomers" contributed to the State. Trouble is that the State in it's infinite wisdom has re-distributed those funds to more important needs and now is faced with millions of "Baby Boomers" coming up for retirement. Solution? = ObamaCare. Yes, indeed we'll be taken CARE of. That's for sure. That's what "We the Government" do.

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I'm not yet retired, but when I am, I want all taxes raised, so I can rake in the benefits and entitlements.

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Leninka wrote:I'm not yet retired, but when I am, I want all taxes raised, so I can rake in the benefits and entitlements.


Great plan. However, here in Orygun, they are really advanced in culling techniques-

https://www.oregon.gov/DHS/pain/pmtrain ... t/15.shtml


And you bet they are anxious about you feeing any pain. They dope you out of your gourd within minutes of your arrival at the hospital. Greatly improves "patient compliance". If you get my drift.



ImageThe perversion of therapeutics for POLITICAL PURPOSES is, after all, a TOTALITARIAN tradition.

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Relax Comrades. I've got a lovely music video for you to watch. Isn't that new lounge chair comfy? It's compliments of our new Healthcare. Now, just a pinch while we hook up this IV. There we go. All set. Enjoy Comrade. You deserve it. Everything's going to be OK................

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NlprozG ... re=related

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Grigori E.R. wrote:Relax Comrades. I've got a lovely music video for you to watch. Isn't that new lounge chair comfy? Now, just a pinch while we hook up this IV. There we go. All set. Enjoy Comrade. You deserve it. Everything's going to be OK................

I was hospitalized in winter 2005, 2006, 2007, and they kept me absolutely doped near comatose. The things I saw and heard were nothing close to Pachelbel.

It was all.... like..... a real.....baaaad....trip.....man.

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Hey comrades,

These old croakers aren't going down without a fight!

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I present the newest Maxine I've seen... and one of the best

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Let me get this straight . . . .

We're going to be "gifted" with a health care
plan we are forced to purchase and
fined if we don't,

Which purportedly covers at least
ten million more people,
without adding a single new doctor,
but provides for 16,000 new IRS agents,

written by a committee whose chairman
says he doesn't understand it,

passed by a Congress that didn't read it but
exempted themselves from it,

and signed by a President who smokes,

with funding administered by a treasury chief who
didn't pay his taxes,

for which we'll be taxed for four years before any
benefits take effect,

by a government which has
already bankrupted Social Security and Medicare,

all to be overseen by a surgeon general
who is obese,

and financed by a country that's broke!!!!!

'What the hell could
possibly go wrong?'
this was sent to me from my parents....hilarious and oh so true! Good ole' Maxine does it again: If someone could fix this text, I would be most grateful. It looks fine until it hits the thread...then...well you can see what I mean, comprende?
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Reason for editing this post: When Che asks, someone better deliver. FYI - pasting pre-formatted text can be tricky - Your old pal Grigori

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Grigori E.R. wrote: We've all done our part. I contributed for 44 years and take great satisfaction that I was a small part of the Six Trillion dollars that we "Baby Boomers" contributed to the State. Trouble is that the State in it's infinite wisdom has re-distributed those funds to more important needs

Good point Grigori. It's common to hear people refer to Socialist Security as a Ponzi scheme. But in fact it isn't. Had the money been set aside as it was supposed to, the fund would be quite solvent right now.

In truth, the money was embezzled, mostly by Democrats, to fund sundry schemes that they hoped would benefit them come election time. At least they were responsible enough to leave an unsigned IOU for every dollar they diverted. Now we'll have plenty of IOU's to keep us warm and well fed in our old age.

(Oh the things we could have done with the money we were forced into paying for a benefit we'll never enjoy)

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Eyes Only (OFF),
Current SS benefit payments are being paid by funds collected from those who are earning income now. It's like musical chairs. The music has stopped playing and the only ones standing are the tax payers of today. Yes, a Ponzi scheme is the same thing. Somebody's going to be left holding the bag. Retirement for the current generation? Maybe never or 100?

"[highlight=#ffff99]for which we'll be taxed for four years before any benefits take effect,[/highlight]" Rest assured we'll see more creative accounting gimmicks like this one. It's for the Common Good, doncha know?


 
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