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And your wife is going to come over and kick my ass? Beautiful. Send over the overly hairy, 50 lbs. overweight City Bowling, Beer Drinking and Belching Trophy Winner Wife of yours anytime...

I bet your blowjobs are better...practice makes perfect!!!

Mikael, you've already exposed yourself here as a drama queen, a fraud, a loser, and a self-aggrandizing buffoon. How much more exposure do you want?

Just as you entered this thread you had been warned:
https://thepeoplescube.com/red/viewtopi ... 0088#10088

Yet you continued to spam this site while whining about your imaginary rights here. And when you don't get your way you start insulting me. I didn't alter your posts and frankly, am not even very interested in reading them. All I care about is spam. I know spam when I see it, and you, sir, are a spammer.

Happy New Year. Don't drink and mime.

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I'm glad you can type...

MikaelMN wrote:"Red Square",

Hiding behind a "nickname"?

Too much of a coward to bring to the light the true identity of your spineless self?

Apparently so.

Some people prefer to expose themselves on the web, others don't. It's that simple. Obviously you respect neither yourself not the people you correspond with. Otherwise you would familiarize yourself with this site before posting here and throwing around unfounded insults and threats. As for the email spam, "progressives" like you have been working on it overtime for quite a while, sending me hundreds of virus-infected emails daily. I had to learn how to filter them. This and similar things make me question your ilk's passion for defending free speech. Now if you excuse me I'll go drink my New Year's champaign provided to me for my service by $$ Halliburton.

Grand Master Red said:

Now if you excuse me I'll go drink my New Year's champaign provided to me for my service by $$ Halliburton.

Happy New Year, Red...and to all the infidel Collective, a prosperous one as well

This is my last post.

There is no point posting on a site where my words are twisted by the moderator (in my own entries). My links to backup my arguments (not just the Impeach for Peace site) are replaced with NeoCon propaganda links and where an entry is posted in my name that I did not write.

We could have agreed to disagree, but when the host of this site cannot refrain from rewriting my posts and making up posts in my name, what is the point of continuing? He'll say that he didn't, but those of you who saw the original post where he put up a Henry Waxman photo pretending it was me know that he is lying. He knows he is lying... but then, apparently his body wasn't the only thing that was damaged "over there".

If any of you care to reply in a way that I can receive it, don't bother doing it here. I won't be reading this site. I will be writing of my experience with this site and its operator on my blog at: https://www.impeach... well, you can find it. Just google my name and the word "impeach", it comes up hundreds of times.

I am sure you will be curious what my perspective is after a week of participating in this... whatever it is...

Check it out. I won't bother adding a link, but I am sure this entry won't be left alone either. The site dictator can't seem to find the integrity within himself to allow nor the ability to compete with dissenting voices without compromising his increasingly hollow character and his shriveling integrity.

Talk to you during the impeachment hearings, perhaps?

Drop by my site... you might learn something...

~ Mikael

Looks like Mikael has thrown a drama-queen fit and deleted the content of all of his previous posts, replacing it with one and the same dramatic message designed to make others sorry for him. In that he returned to his mime roots to which he should stick because this is the only thing he's good at.

If he did it because he had grown ashamed of his earlier behavior I might even respect that. But he could also do it because I made good on my promise and set up a code that automatically replaced all the links to his impeachment site with https://www.impeachforpeace.org . Being unable to spam could make him lose interest. Or was it his shame that made him do it? What do you think?

he can't do anything but flame...no support of argument, and THEN he got "out-dis'd"
hasta la vista, babay!

It appears that as I was posting my previous message Mikael posted his own, declaring it to be his last one. Since he had already pomised to stop posting but continued to do so, we decided to help him with that and disabled his account.

EPITAPH TO THE MIME

This clown showed up on a comedy site to argue about a grave subject and got angry when people laughed at him. Must be the story of his life. How tragic. A clown without an ear for comedy. No wonder he was so angry.


(CAPTION: Political clown Mikael Rudolph uses artistic means to educate children about Vice Criminal Dick Cheney's habit to murder cute cuddly kittens and drink their blood for breakfast. Not funny but very informative.)

I'm afraid Mikael had a full blown Clinton meltdown and he is now realizing it -- yet there is no Chris Wallace here?? Hmm, that's a pity; I would say his shame and over enlarged guilt lobe has him incapacitated now. We might need to ask Dr. Fuku for a second opinion.

Could he be returning here due to a vague desire to belong to something real, as opposed to the phony world he's living in? I feel sorry for the guy, I really am. I hope he wakes up. On the other hand, do we really need a drama queen on our side?

You might be interested to learn that as I was disabling Mikael's account I noticed that he had also spammed the link to his site into every "subject" field in all his comments. That field is invisible on the pages, but it may be picked up by search engines.

This proves that he was a deliberate hard-core spammer whose main purpose here was to parasitise on our site, using it as a host body for his larva links. And then he faked indignation at our removal of the visible links, and called us fascists for that. This man seems to have no shame after all.

Red Square wrote:It appears that as I was posting my previous message Mikael posted his own, declaring it to be his last one. Since he had already pomised to stop posting but continued to do so, we decided to help him with that and disabled his account.

EPITAPH TO THE MIME

This clown showed up on a comedy site to argue about a grave subject and got angry when people laughed at him. Must be the story of his life. How tragic. A clown without an ear for comedy. No wonder he was so angry.


(CAPTION: Political clown Mikael Rudolph uses artistic means to educate children about Vice Criminal Dick Cheney's habit to murder cute cuddly kittens and drink their blood for breakfast. Not funny but very informative.)

Hey!!! Kitties is GOOD EATIN'!!!

Did I miss something? again?

Mmmm, kittens. I'm still waiting for my shipment of kittens Mr. President. I paid top-dollar for them kittens and will need them in time for the Earth Day Feast and Nature Orgy -- which of course will be for peace... it's always for peace.

(off)

I agree Red, Mikael's sole purpose here was to advertise in a bigger market, Lord knows no one bothers to peruse the incoherent agitprop smeared all over his little nook on the web (except for us; I personally find inspiration in it for future posts.)

My goodness you guys are shameless. I hope that at least a few of you realize how innapropriate and immature so much of this thread has been as of late. Satire and culture jamming are great fun and useful in society, but it need not stoop to personal attacks/mud slinging.

Hillary wrote:Well if Bush & the Republicans are guilty, so are the Dems and Clinton. Where's the high ground?

The high ground goes to whoever takes it. My point is when Dems act vicious, we can one up them by treating them respectfully. They'll look like fools in the balance. It's the decent thing to do, and it's also in our best interests.

Red Square wrote:freeenterpriseforall is a hilarious name for someone who believes in free enterprise. "free for all" + "enterprise" = mixed economy, mixed signals, mixed metaphors, and mixed nuts. If that's a leftist impersonator's idea of a good conservative name, he must be a ghost writer for our very own $.$. Halliburton. Hey, Ka-Ching, got a freeenterpriseforall among your minions?

The name refers to fighting for a society in which everyone has freedom of choice (laissez-faire). You can twist it around and try to make it sound like an insult if you read too much into it, or put an Orwellian spin on it, but obviously that's not what it's intended to mean.

CausalCrunch wrote:My goodness you guys are shameless. I hope that at least a few of you realize how innapropriate and immature so much of this thread has been as of late. Satire and culture jamming are great fun and useful in society, but it need not stoop to personal attacks/mud slinging.

I agree Crunch, and that is why I think Mr. Rudolph should no longer be welcomed here. He wants to kick and scream because his spam has been disabled as pointed out by Red Square. You of course should be welcomed here anytime, at least you are reasonable (as all Beingist should be mind you).

freeenterpriseforall wrote:The high ground goes to whoever takes it. My point is when Dems act vicious, we can one up them by treating them respectfully. They'll look like fools in the balance. It's the decent thing to do, and it's also in our best interests.

Yes, I also agree with you. It was very clever to host the RNC convention in NYC to allow all the demonstrators to make asses of themselves before the national media. However, this is a humor site -- not a political think-tank or a dull and serious political periodical. I personally have no intention to post serious political discourse here, Mr. Enterprise. And to be honest with you; I hardly enjoy straying out of character to annoy whatever Dem/Leftist/Peace Activist/RINO the winds of the web blow into this wonderful refuge.

With that said, why haven't you said something "intellectual" if that's what you want from us? All you have really done is chastise those who wish to vent frustrations, and yes, take a few cheap shots (me being with the guilty party no doubt). I'm a fair guy, and I do like Crunch. Crunch you're not that bad -- but I will continue to disagree with you.

Also Mr. Enterprise...

How did you stumble upon this thread and why? I do not recall any posts by you in any other forum? This raises concerns with me; I am beginning to wonder if you are just a buddy of Mr. Rudolph who was sent here to judge us and defend him? Hmm, do you mind explaining Mr. Enterprise? I really hope you don't go around policing your fellow conservatives on Right-Left Relations. That would be a shame and I pity you if that is indeed your function.

You're kidding Chairman, you know it's Cap'n Crunch, him and Mikael knock socks, not that there is anything wrong with that, but where the hell is Commissar Theocritus when we need him the most?.
L.

I'm kidding and of course playing the politician. We're building bridges for the mimes, Laika, we're building bridges of hope and understanding (Bwahah! NOT!)

-- Meow

I knew I saw that face before:

https://thepeoplescube.com/red/viewtopi ... ight=#5378

Let's have some fun Comrades!

https://www.zooass.com/games/maimthemime/main.shtml

https://www.ihatemimes.com/games/mime-mayhem//

A mime? A gawddamn mime? Owww Owww.....make it stop......owwww....I'm hurting myself with laughter. I'm gonna get a hernia, I'm splitting my gut with guffaws......owwww....He looks like a snarling deranged Buddy Holly......oh, I'm crying I'm laughing so hard......Help mommy, the big bad mime wants my phone number.... Holy shit, it's the funniest thing I've ever seen on the Cube.
We've been trolled by a gawddamn mime. Why is it always the artsy fartsy half wits? First Alva, now this? We should book him for this year's Conference of the Cube along with Alva. What a deal! $300.00 a pop! We can listen to Goth Head Banging Punk crap with a tone deaf singer and a mime doing his impression of Vince Foster.

CausalCrunch wrote:Satire and culture jamming are great fun and useful in society, but it need not stoop to personal attacks/mud slinging.

Too much. Rudolph comes here and immediately stoops to personal attacks/mud slinging. My guess is that you told him he should delete his posts because they were such an embarrassment to him, you, and the "impeachment cause." The guy went completely beserk in public. Attack and then accuse the other guy of hitting you. Too much. Way too much.

Laika the Space Dog wrote:We can listen to Goth Head Banging Punk crap with a tone deaf singer and a mime doing his impression of Vince Foster.

Come on, it's unfair that only people with perfect musical ear are allowed to work as musicians. This society has a very low glass ceiling for the tone-deaf. Americans are being bigoted and ugly as usual. We need to start a taxpayer-funded Society for the Tone-Deaf that would fight for the constitutional right of those without the musical ear or talent to work in the music industry and entertain the masses if it's their wish. Stop the discrimination against the differently eared! Government grants to the tone-deaf! No preferential treatment for the unfairly gifted!

We also need an affirmative program for people with poor communication skills. There is a stigma in this society against those affected by the foot-in-mouth disease. They are being segregated and forced to work as mimes - take poor Mikael Rudolph for example. But they also have the right to speak up! I propose we start a Society for the Advancement of People Who Can't Speak Clearly. This movement will improve humanity by defending the right of those with muddled brains to work as writers, politicians, educators, public tribunes, and progressive activists. How can it be achieved? Very simply - by awarding government grants. They will be paid for writing books, which all libraries will be required to purchase. It will help them compete on the market with the unfairly talented and even beat them to the game.

I would also propose an Action Center for the Advancement of the Morally Deprived, but that goal seems to have been already implemented through other channels, including the 2006 midterm elections.

Margaret wrote:My guess is that you told him he should delete his posts because they were such an embarrassment to him, you, and the "impeachment cause."

That's a good guess, Margaret. But I have an announcement to make in this regard:

I MADE A BACK UP COPY OF THE CUBE DATABASE RIGHT BEFORE MIKAEL DELETED HIS POSTS.

It had nothing to do with him - I just thought it would be a good way to start the New Year, by backing up all the previous year's content.

In other words, I have copies of Mikael's posts saved. Restoring the entire database would remove all the more recent posts, so I'm not going to do it. But some posts can be restored selectively. It will require time which I currently don't have. But if push comes to shove it can and will be done.

I just wanted everybody to know this.

A gawddamn mime wants to kick my ass?

I still can't stop laughing..............I feel like I've been on NO2 all day.

I don't see much point in intellectual discussion when we can't agree to be civil to each other. It's hard not to get cynical about the level of debate in our county. But whatever, I'm not going to justify myself. Assume I'm Mikael's buddy if you wish. Good luck to you.

From Red

It had nothing to do with him

From freeenterpriseforall

Assume I'm Mikael's buddy if you wish.

OK, "let me 'splain it to you Lucy".

What's civil about coming to this site and pretending this is "Firing Line" minus Bill Buckley and having that foul-mouthed, vet & troop hating, conservative and gay bashing mime (Just wait until Theocritus gets a hold of Mikael....wait, let me rephrase that ...) spam non-stop and do nothing but name calling?
I suppose that's civil.
That boy has a big problem.
I hope he gets help.

P.S.
Smersh is on the way. The Black Maria has been dispatched.

MikaelMN wrote:This is my last post.

There is no point posting on a site where my words are twisted by the moderator (in my own entries). My links to backup my arguments (not just the Impeach for Peace site) are replaced with NeoCon propaganda links and where an entry is posted in my name that I did not write.

Oh man, I was moved. I believe man "He's Gone", but that's another re-write.

"Mime Time"



You told me goodbye
How was I to know
You didn't mean goodbye
You meant please don't let me go
I was having a high mime
Living the good life
Well I know

Your posts are muddy
Got a ton of lies
Now listen here baby
'Cause I mean what I say
I'm having a mime time
Living the good life
Well I know

You're a losing mime, you had nothing to do
No-one to fight, So you came here to spew
Impeach broke down, Pelosi won't draw
The line is busted, the last one I saw

Tomorrow comes trouble
Tomorrow comes pain
Now don't think too hard, Mikael
'Cause you know what I'm saying
I could show you a high mime
Living the good life
Don't be that way

Nothing's for certain
It could always go wrong
Come in when it's raining
Go on out when it's gone
We could have us a mime time
Living the good life
Well I know

Mikael has already sent me an email from [email protected] without signing it with his name. It just said this:

You.

You are a coward.

Judging by the extreme dramatic tension he was able to insert in those five words I assume it's him. I also assume he wants to continue the discussion as an email exchange, but I don't have time for this. If he wants he can register again under a new user name, like MimeForPeace or something like that. I just don't want him to alter his posts again under his old ID. Nothing in his posts will be altered by us, but if he starts spamming again his acount will be disabled again.

A Happy New Year!!!

She's a slut, she'll be back.

Just like a perp at a crime scene..I mean mime scene...I mean..I mean..I mean, you know what I mean. James Dean. Scott Ritter. John Dean.
Mime Slime Crime.
Laika dropped a dime.
You lose mime, your bell has chimed.
There's a ten cent troll fine.
You crossed the line mime.
Do the time.

can this thread get any better????

Bvt. Field Marshal Pravda wrote:can this thread get any better????

Apparently it can - with some mime porno. I never knew it existed, but here it is - just fast-forward this one to the middle...

MIME PORNO
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On Mikael's webpage-for-mime, he mentions that he was at a festival in Waxahachie TX last year in April...that's close to Dallas (relatively)...I wonder if he is planning a trip here in '07 so we can get Roy D. Mercer down from Tulsa to heckle him

This thread is GOLD!

It should be kept on record for future generations to cherish, memorize and recite before a room of ill-tempered trial lawyers. Really, this thread is a gift that keeps on giving, it truly is a blessing and I'm thankful for that. We have a mime calling us war-criminals -- think about it, could it possibly get any better!?! Oh yes, it can, and I have faith that it will.


Isn't modern Liberalism Vaudevillian to begin with?? IT'S PERFECT!

Chairman M. S. Punchenko wrote:This thread is GOLD!

It should be kept on record for future generations to cherish, memorize and recite before a room of ill-tempered trial lawyers. Really, this thread is a gift that keeps on giving, it truly is a blessing and I'm thankful for that. We have a mime calling us war-criminals -- think about it, could it possibly get any better!?! Oh yes, it can, and I have faith that it will.


Isn't modern Liberalism Vaudevillian to begin with?? IT'S PERFECT!

agreed Meow...lotsa mileage out of this one, eh?

Yes, Pravda, and we must continue beating this dead horse until it votes democrat twice -- or maybe thrice? I'm really not sure.

I miss Mikael already <sniffle>

Me too, I'm having withdrawal symptoms! Mikael? Where are you? Come out and do the thing where you are trapped in the Cube..err...box I mean.

Chairman M. S. Punchenko wrote:Me too, I'm having withdrawal symptoms! Mikael? Where are you? Come out and do the thing where you are trapped in the Cube..err...box I mean.

Chairman, how funny was it when you found Red's post about who this guy is??? That was soooo classic!!! And, the best thing was, as always, Red Square was merely speaking "truth to power" lolz!!!

Not that there's anything wrong with being a child molesting, kitty eating, anti-corporatist mime....(they keep coming up with new "ists" and "isms").

Hey Jerry, can we get you and Boy George to duet "Karma Chameleon" when Mikael comes back? It's a theme most appropriate for the progressive mime on the go.

knock knock!!!

anyone home??

don't MAKE me start a new thread!!

BTW Chairman! I sent your kitties to you Fed-Ex (what else would you expect?)...don't tell me you never got 'em! Some toaster named Helen signed for the whole litter I sent.

You warmongering idiot! How could you send them through Fed-Ex?! They will all be dead by the time they reach my dacha; I want to eat them kittens alive you moron! ALIVE! Uggh, Helen is dead, sleeping with the microwaves at the bottom of the Potomac, there is no way she could have signed off on that.

Unless.... (dum, dum, DUM!)


To answer your question Pravda... I nearly died laughing. I knew this guy was wierd, but not a mime! I mean really, look at his picture, HILARIOUS! I fell to the floor laughing and couldn't see because tears were flowing from my eyes, it was that bad Pravda.

As you noted, this thread is gold, pure gold!! I could not stop laughing..like I said how much progress can be packed into one person!??

He's also a dance instructor (by trade)! Maybe we should hook him up with Comrade Keefer and spread the joy of progressive love!

https://www.opednews.com/author/author3303.html

Chairman M. S. Punchenko wrote:He's also a dance instructor (by trade)! Maybe we should hook him up with Comrade Keefer and spread the joy of progressive love!

https://www.opednews.com/author/author3303.html

That would be a good match I think...

Thanks for the link Chairman.....just go a little father......

https://www.opednews.com/articles/opedn ... ush_ho.htm

More disrespect for vets. He also thinks he has some kind of pedigree.
Poor Saddam too....

These quotes say it all:
Of course, being a born skeptic I don't automatically assume you are actually a veteran of the Iraqi conflict and I will always wonder if you aren't in fact a government troll, working overtime to negate all dissent in America, but assuming that you are who you say you are...

I add all that because I do have a high degree of respect for those who serve in our nation's military, but yield no authoritative ground in any public debate to those that wear their service as a "talking point" in open debate.

Just go fuck yerself vet...just 'cause you were there, don't mean shit. I'm Mikael, the real patriot, my daddy almost fought the Japs and my great-aunt was in the DAR...ohhhh please.

Check out the last post too from some socialist....poor commies.
Can't understand Nazis hate commies and they always did, except when it came to mutual benefit and they used each other. His knowledge of Ba'athist history is nil, nada, zilch.

At his blog, in the comments to the same article, he mentions The People's Cube.

You are always welcome to read or not read my blog. I promise to allow you an open voice if you should choose to continue to post here. My experience recently on The People's Cube website showed me how tacky some web hosts can be in that regard.

I wonder how he'd feel about that if just about every other line in a comment were spam links to the commentator's website and some comments were nothing but spam links to the commentor's website like he was doing here?

When he mentions The People's Cube, he really should provide a link.

Dammit dammit dammit dammit dammit!!!!

This is what I get for not checking out The Cube for a week or two!!! Son of a....

I really found it funny when he kept harping that his posts were changed (from what I gathered from everyone else's quotes), I have run across similar arguments before when someone gets torn apart, funny how that happens.

O'Brien

WAR IS PEACE
FREEDOM IS SLAVERY
IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH

OMG! He called us <gasp> "TACKY". My world is slowly crumbling now, oh the misery! How will I go on living knowing that we're tacky! Why Lenin! WHY!?!?

Yeah comrade O'Brien, you have to be on The Cube at all times! 24/7/365 is the recommended bare-minimum requirement. Hopefully Mr. Rudolph will return to enlighten us all once more and you can partake in the throwing of stones.

You xenophobic commies! Don't you know you just screwed one of your own? Comrade Rudoph just happens to be the Minneapolis Organiser for World Can't Wait and his website Impeachforpea... is the official website of the Minnesota chapterWorld Can't Wait Chapter Index - Minnesota. As you can see (Discover The Networks - World Can't Wait) if you'd take the time and read something that isn't from your damn commie propaganda you'd see he's a commie pinko just like you. Just because somebody comes to your website acting like a "corporatist fascist" spamming his business all over the place doesn't mean he's a troll government spy. Stupid paranoid commies. He was undercover.

WHAT HAVE WE DONE!?!? Oh well, the revolution from time to time (all the time really) eats it's own. Mr. Rudolph will be forever known as Hero Of Mimes, Vanguard of Non-Working Peoples, Artist of the Month, and of course, he will recieve a 5$ dollar gift-card to the participating Target store of his choice.

Comrade Rudolph, wherever you are (the street panhandling with your "trapped in box" routine probably) we, the collective, SALUTE YOU!

<Soviet Anthem plays>

<20 shovel salute follows>

<a toast>

*Clink*

<people go about their business as if nothing ever happened>

Ka-Ching darling.
Quit scarring the children!
You know damn well they're Mimesheviks! That's not funny, I can hear you chuckling.

The Cube did a great job! Now the Mimesheviks are worked into a useful idiot lather.

Comrades!
It's quiz time.

What do good Bolsheviks do to the Mimesheviks when we used them like generic no-brand name one-ply after the November 2008 Revolution?

First one to answer correctly gets an extra bottle of Stoli.

Mmmm... Dry-clean, reuse, and recycle?...

Just kidding. That's what we want the toiling masses to do with the toilet paper in order to lessen the burden of the State that will distribute according to their needs. Their needs will be determined by us. The smaller their needs, the bigger the wad of ca$h in my freezer. It's like measuring with a scale, really. Which way should we tip it?... Kidding again. Let them dry-clean, reuse, and recycle!

Her Most Exalted Supreme Excellency, Hillary, wrote:

What do good Bolsheviks do to the Mimesheviks when we used them like generic no-brand name one-ply after the November 2008 Revolution?

First one to answer correctly gets an extra bottle of Stoli.

I know! After the revolution we dump their bodies at Fort Marcy Park! We musn't let the masses know of those we had to "use" in order to get you "elected", Your Excellency.

If anyone had any compassion and the true spirit of the revolution, they would most CERTAINLY GIVE THEIR LIFE in a fashion remeniscient of the sacrifice of Vince Foster. May his sacrifice forever be known as a tragic suicide!

And of course... Dry-clean, reuse and recycle (as dictated by comrade Red Square). Sweaty wads of money IS FAR MORE IMPORTANT than fresh blood soaked toliet paper for the masses to wipe their asses with. TREES BLEED TOO YOU MURDERERS!

Correct answer Chairman!
But no Stoli for you! We know about your secret stash in the freezer. (where all Stoli should be kept)

H.

Chairman M. S. Punchenko wrote:WHAT HAVE WE DONE!?!? Oh well, the revolution from time to time (all the time really) eats it's own. Mr. Rudolph will be forever known as Hero Of Mimes, Vanguard of Non-Working Peoples, Artist of the Month, and of course, he will recieve a 5$ dollar gift-card to the participating Target store of his choice.

Comrade Rudolph, wherever you are (the street panhandling with your "trapped in box" routine probably) we, the collective, SALUTE YOU!

<Soviet Anthem plays>

<20 shovel salute follows>

<a toast>

*Clink*

<people go about their business as if nothing ever happened>

omg...lol Chairman...SALUTE!

Hillary wrote:Ka-Ching darling.
Quit scarring the children!
You know damn well they're Mimesheviks! That's not funny, I can hear you chuckling.

The Cube did a great job! Now the Mimesheviks are worked into a useful idiot lather.

Comrades!
It's quiz time.

What do good Bolsheviks do to the Mimesheviks when we used them like generic no-brand name one-ply after the November 2008 Revolution?

First one to answer correctly gets an extra bottle of Stoli.

DRYFLUSH!!!!

O'Brien wrote:Dammit dammit dammit dammit dammit!!!!

This is what I get for not checking out The Cube for a week or two!!! Son of a....

I really found it funny when he kept harping that his posts were changed (from what I gathered from everyone else's quotes), I have run across similar arguments before when someone gets torn apart, funny how that happens.

O'Brien

WAR IS PEACE
FREEDOM IS SLAVERY
IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH

you soooo missed it; this freak was climbing the walls..

Chairman M. S. Punchenko wrote: Yeah comrade O'Brien, you have to be on The Cube at all times! 24/7/365 is the recommended bare-minimum requirement. Hopefully Mr. Rudolph will return to enlighten us all once more and you can partake in the throwing of stones.

Yes Comrade Chairman, they all come crawling back. They never have the spine to say 'I'm gone' and really mean it. Even if the troglodite doesn't post anymore, one day he will be sitting at his computer in his mime gear after a hard day of trying to get out of that damn invisible box and return to The Cube to see what has been said about him. Then he will tell his friends or post on his mime-blog (or both) that 'those bastard corporatist fascists (whatever that means) are still talking about me! I got them good!'.
I always felt that people like that are starving for attention or something, that is why they do such things.
Oh well.....
Back to work on the revolution!!

O'Brien

WAR IS PEACE
FREEDOM IS SLAVERY
IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH

Now that we got a dumbass mime touting the Jefferson Manual for political purposes and a Congressman from nutjob's homestate of Minnesota being sworn in on a Quran, Koran, or Corned Ham, once owned by Jefferson, the book that advocates violence towards "infidels" and recognizes no law except Islamic law, here's some food for thought:

What Thomas Jefferson learned from the Muslim book of jihad

By Ted Sampley https://www.usvetdsp.com/sampbio.htm"ht ... vetdsp.com

U.S. Veteran Dispatch
January 2007

Democrat Keith Ellison is now officially the first Muslim United States congressman. True to his pledge, he placed his hand on the Quran, the Muslim book of jihad and pledged his allegiance to the United States during his ceremonial swearing-in.

Capitol Hill staff said Ellison's swearing-in photo opportunity drew more media than they had ever seen in the history of the U.S. House. Ellison represents the 5th Congressional District of Minnesota.

The Quran Ellison used was no ordinary book. It once belonged to Thomas Jefferson, third president of the United States and one of America's founding fathers. Ellison borrowed it from the Rare Book Section of the Library of Congress. It was one of the 6,500 Jefferson books archived
in the library.

Ellison, who was born in Detroit and converted to Islam while in college, said he chose to use Jefferson's Quran because it showed that "a visionary like Jefferson" believed that wisdom could be gleaned from many sources.

There is no doubt Ellison was right about Jefferson believing wisdom could be "gleaned" from the Muslim Quran. At the time Jefferson owned the book, he needed to know everything possible about Muslims because he was about to advocate war against the Islamic "Barbary" states of Morocco, Algeria, Tunisia and Tripoli.

Ellison's use of Jefferson's Quran as a prop illuminates a subject once well-known in the history of the United States, but, which today, is mostly forgotten - the Muslim pirate slavers who over many centuries enslaved millions of Africans and tens of thousands of Christian Europeans and Americans in the Islamic "Barbary" states.

Over the course of 10 centuries, Muslim pirates cruised the African and Mediterranean coastline, pillaging villages and seizing slaves.

The taking of slaves in pre-dawn raids on unsuspecting coastal villages had a high casualty rate. It was typical of Muslim raiders to kill off as many of the "non-Muslim" older men and women as possible so the preferred "booty" of only young women and children could be collected.

Young non-Muslim women were targeted because of their value as concubines in Islamic markets. Islamic law provides for the sexual interests of Muslim men by allowing them to take as many as four wives at one time and to have as many concubines as their fortunes allow.

Boys, as young as 9 or 10 years old, were often mutilated to create eunuchs who would bring higher prices in the slave markets of the Middle East. Muslim slave traders created "eunuch stations" along major African slave routes so the necessary surgery could be performed. It was estimated that only a small number of the boys subjected to the mutilation survived after the surgery.

When American colonists rebelled against British rule in 1776, American merchant ships lost Royal Navy protection. With no American Navy for protection, American ships were attacked and their Christian crews enslaved by Muslim pirates operating under the control of the "Dey of Algiers"--an Islamist warlord ruling Algeria.

Because American commerce in the Mediterranean was being destroyed by the pirates, the Continental Congress agreed in 1784 to negotiate treaties with the four Barbary States. Congress appointed a special commission consisting of John Adams, Thomas Jefferson, and Benjamin Franklin, to oversee the negotiations.

Lacking the ability to protect its merchant ships in the Mediterranean, the new America government tried to appease the Muslim slavers by agreeing to pay tribute and ransoms in order to retrieve seized American ships and buy the freedom of enslaved sailors.

Adams argued in favor of paying tribute as the cheapest way to get American commerce in the Mediterranean moving again. Jefferson was opposed. He believed there would be no end to the demands for tribute and wanted matters settled "through the medium of war." He proposed a league of trading nations to force an end to Muslim piracy.

In 1786, Jefferson, then the American ambassador to France, and Adams, then the American ambassador to Britain, met in London with Sidi Haji Abdul Rahman Adja, the "Dey of Algiers" ambassador to Britain.

The Americans wanted to negotiate a peace treaty based on Congress' vote to appease.

During the meeting Jefferson and Adams asked the Dey's ambassador why Muslims held so much hostility towards America, a nation with which they had no previous contacts. In a later meeting with the American Congress, the two future presidents reported that Ambassador Sidi Haji Abdul Rahman Adja had answered that Islam "was founded on the Laws of their Prophet, that it was written in their Quran, that all nations who should not have acknowledged their authority were sinners, that it was their right and duty to make war
upon them wherever they could be found, and to make slaves of all they could take as Prisoners, and that every Musselman (Muslim) who should be slain in Battle was sure to
go to Paradise."

For the following 15 years, the American government paid the Muslims millions of dollars for the safe passage of American ships or the return of American hostages. The payments in ransom and tribute amounted to 20 percent of United States government annual revenues in 1800.

Not long after Jefferson's inauguration as president in 1801, he dispatched a group of frigates to defend American interests in the Mediterranean, and informed Congress.

Declaring that America was going to spend "millions for defense but not one cent for tribute," Jefferson pressed the issue by deploying American Marines and many of America's best warships to the Muslim Barbary Coast.

The USS Constitution, USS Constellation, USS Philadelphia, USS Chesapeake, USS Argus, USS Syren and USS Intrepid all saw action.

In 1805, American Marines marched across the dessert from Egypt into Tripolitania, forcing the surrender of Tripoli and the freeing of all American slaves.

During the Jefferson administration, the Muslim Barbary States, crumbling as a result of intense American naval bombardment and on shore raids by Marines, finally officially agreed to abandon slavery and piracy.

Jefferson's victory over the Muslims lives on today in the Marine Hymn, with the line, "From the halls of Montezuma to the shores of Tripoli, we will fight our country's battles on the land as on the sea."

It wasn't until 1815 that the problem was fully settled by the total defeat of all the Muslim slave trading pirates.

Jefferson had been right. The "medium of war" was the only way to put and end to the Muslim problem. Mr. Ellison was right about Jefferson. He was a "visionary" wise enough to read and learn about the enemy from their own Muslim book of jihad.

Great article, Laika.

-- I noticed that Mr. Ellison's campaign site uses "Jihad Green" to communicate his message of hope, peace and progress.

(if you added a saber to the bottom of his campaign signs, it would resemble the Saudi national flag)

https://www.keithellison.org/

how progressive of Mr Ellison

Chairman M. S. Punchenko wrote:I forgot, how silly of me. I will report to progressive summer camp, where we will gather around a cutout Hillary and give her burnt offerings and macaroni pictures.

And paste melted marshmellows on her cardbord breasts! After all, we need her to look plump!

--
Zampolit B. S. Blokhayev

Red, we REALLY need to restore this thread to the point before The Mime deleted all his posts...if it can be done...so all the Cube can revisit this most glorious battle!

Da! The Field Marshall is correct. However, do not forget about the marshmellows!

--
Zampolit B. S. Blokhayev

S.A.F. Marshal Pravda wrote:Because Bushitler and $.$. Halliburton raped, cut off ears, cut off heads, taped wires from portable telephones to human genitals and turned up the power, cut off limbs, blew up bodies, randomly shot at civilians, razed villages in fashion reminiscent of Genghis Khan, shot cattle and dogs for fun, poisoned food stocks, and generally ravaged the Iraqi countryside.That enough?[/color]

And there is a problem with this? Did I miss the memo?

I was sitting here at work listening to Glenn Beck and the Mime was the 1st caller today. I almost fell off my chair.

It was sheer classic insane Mikael.

Go to the Audio Archive for the first hour:

https://www.glennbeck.com/home/index.shtml

Laika the Space Dog wrote:I was sitting here at work listening to Glenn Beck and the Mime was the 1st caller today. I almost fell off my chair.

It was sheer classic insane Mikael.

Go to the Audio Archive for the first hour:

https://www.glennbeck.com/home/index.shtml

OMG! What a maroon as Buggs would say. Of course I am new here so missed this clown for the most part, but I did read some of the insane ramblings that was not expunged...thankfully I might add. I have never heard of Glenn Beck, and so didn't wish to pay money to listen to the archive. But I did find the transcript apparently of the mime.. Michael is his name da? In the transcript he mentioned he was a "performing aritst." Well, I just saw that YouTube thingy.... Holy Lenin! I didn't even know there really were mimes, much less totally talentless ones such as he. I always figured mimes were the creation of Hollywood movies and sitcoms, never imagined one would actually show their, whoops, not show their face, in public or on YouTube! LOL! That was almost the stupidest thing I have ever seen on YouTube, and that is low praise indeed! That "porn" of his... egads, that even scared my appliances so I can't get any tonight! LOL! That guy is wrong on so many levels, don't know whether to laugh, or cry, puke, or just go get my Kalsihnakov and shoot some proles.... in mime face preferably!

Pup...that Mime Porno isn't our Mime. If you go through the thread you'll find his web site and see some of his performances. This "Michael" said he's from Wheeling but I don't think so....

Glenn Beck is on in the mornings before Rush on a lot of talk radio stations. Check him out if you can. He's funny.

Anyhow, here's the bitch slap Glenn applied to "The Performance Artist" we hold so dear to our bleeding commie hearts:

Michael, the Non-Listener Caller
AUGUST 21, 2007

GLENN BECK PROGRAM
BEGIN TRANSCRIPT

GLENN: I love it when people call in and like to make judgments about this show or about my opinion but they start the conversation with "I don't really listen to your show, I rarely listen, I listen occasionally" because I know they're going to get it wrong. Because I'm sorry because this is not your typical talk show where you can just say, "This guy's for the Republicans" because I'm not. I'm for some good Republicans, I'm for some good Democrats. I'm a conservative first. I am not giving you your typical spew and that's what confuses people. And so when they think that they -- they can come in and they can hear a drop of a phrase, they have no idea what I'm even talking about. We just had Michael on phone. He is with us again and Michael is a nonlistener from Wheeling, West Virginia. Michael, I thank you so much for calling in and I thank you for holding. You started in that I am a fearmonger, that I am not willing to take on Bush on Saudi Arabia. You started, said that I -- you don't listen, and I accused the New York Times but I don't kill Bush on Saudi Arabia when I say, yeah, I did kill Saudi Arabia all the time. In fact, I said starting the program today, this phrase... if I hear one more time that Saudi Arabia is our friend, that we need to work with Saudi Arabia, I think my head's going to pop. Okay, so blood starts shooting out my eyes. So I started out the show today with Saudi Arabia. But then you said, no, you are not killing Bush when he's selling arms. When that story was out, I mentioned it for at least two days, maybe three days. The two days leading up to a meeting I had with Bush. Then it was brought up in the meeting with Bush and then I brought it up after the meeting I had with Bush and I said I disagreed with the President. When I point out to you that I do kill Saudi Arabia and I do kill Bush for selling arms to Saudi Arabia, you say, well, like I said, I don't listen that much but what you really are is somebody who lives in fear. So Michael, I've already taken down, you know, what you called in for. Let's deal with the new charge that I'm a fearmonger that lives in fear.

CALLER: Okay. I'd be happy to take that on. You can try to discredit me anything you want.

GLENN: I don't have to try. I just did.

CALLER: Let's look at it this way. Did you say at any time in the program today as you did about the "New York Times," the Bush administration is helping the enemy because they sold arms to Saudi Arabia? Did you --

GLENN: I did not today. Excuse me. Michael, Michael, let me ask the question as you go because we're not going to dogpile here. I'll answer it as we go. Today I did not. Did I when that story was in the news? Yes, three days in a row.

CALLER: Okay. Well, then I will give you credit on that one.

GLENN: Oh, okay.

CALLER: But as somebody, as I said and as you have also said, who only on occasion has listened to your program.

GLENN: Yes.

CALLER: I can tell you that the reason most of the time that I turn it off is while you may profit and benefit personally from many of the things that you say, I don't see how America has benefit. It doesn't --

GLENN: You don't even know what I say, Michael. Everything that you've -- everything that you think I say you've gotten wrong. So let's get again into specifics.

CALLER: How does America benefit by saying that the New York Times is helping the enemy? Where is --

GLENN: You know, Michael, Michael, for the love of Pete. The New York Times has benefited -- has helped the enemy when they release information on exactly how we are tracking the enemy. So yes, by saying on a specific case that the New York Times has aided our enemy, I think that is just as important of news to get out as, you know, them thinking that they should help the enemy by revealing secret plans on how we track them.

CALLER: And I think that it is mentalities like that that have cost the Republican party so much in the last few years.

GLENN: I don't care about the Republican party. I'm not a Republican and I think they stink.

CALLER: Well, I was a Republican. I was a Republican --

GLENN: Well, I wasn't. So I can't give you credit on that.

CALLER: But unfortunately as you say that you are a conservative, I do not see a conservative ideal when you supported the war in Iraq for the purpose of spreading democracy. To me that's never been a conservative ideal. That was the main reason that I left the Republican party. I'm not trying to challenge your conservative credentials at all. That's not my purpose. My purpose is calling in to say that I don't believe that the mentality that you put across on the radio --

GLENN: You don't know the mentality that I put on the radio.

CALLER: As an occasional listener, the mentality --

GLENN: But you're better -- here's the problem, Michael. Your understanding of what I put across the radio is wrong. That's like saying to somebody, you know what, I'm never going to drive a Dodge again because they're crappy, they're -- I mean, they're giant huge Chrysler boats. And you'll say, well, do you drive a Chrysler? And you'll say, no, but I drove them in the Seventies. Well, that's not what a Chrysler is. So why would anyone from Chrysler have a conversation with somebody who drove a Chrysler in the Seventies? When you decide to drive this car, when you decide to listen and have an accurate perception of what I say, well, then why -- then we would have a conversation. But why am I defending untruths with you? You have this perception of who I am and what I say, and it is inaccurate. You have not come to the table with anything accurate as of yet. When you do, then we can have an intelligent conversation. But I don't understand how you expect to have an intelligent conversation when you're wrong on every perception of anything that I stand for or say.

CALLER: Well, and Mr. Beck, that's going to make you a lot of money and I hope that you enjoy that. But like I said, I --

GLENN: How is that going to make me money?

CALLER: Obviously it does. You have a television show on Headline News. You have a --

GLENN: That doesn't make me money. That's a charity arm of my industry, by the way.

CALLER: Well, as flattering as that is, you have personally profited from what you say on the radio.

GLENN: Of course I have. This is a business. Are you -- hang on just a second, Michael. Are you anticapitalist?

CALLER: No, I'm not anticapitalist.

GLENN: Okay. So what do you do for a living?

CALLER: I am a performing artist.

GLENN: You are a performing artist?

CALLER: Just like yourself. You are also a performing artist.

GLENN: So you are personally profiting from performances?

CALLER: Yes.

GLENN: Well, I've got a problem with that. I don't have a problem with that, Michael. Why would you have a problem with me making money in my business?

CALLER: I have a problem with you saying things like the New York Times is helping the enemy.

GLENN: Okay. Michael --

CALLER: That's the same thing that freedom of the press is telling the enemy --

GLENN: Hang on just a second, Michael. The "New York Times," the New York Times has said that I'm a jingoistic hatemonger, okay? So is the New York Times -- are you going to now, to be fair, call the New York Times and say that they are profiting off of those things because I'm sure it's making them money by saying things about me. I know they have said horrible things about Dick Cheney. I know they've said horrible things about George Bush. They have an antiwar stance. They are making money off of the antiwar stance on the New York Times. Is that allowable in your world?

CALLER: Of course it is. It's freedom of the press.

GLENN: Wait a minute. Hang on just a second. I'm a member of the press. Why don't I have the --

CALLER: I would not say that. I would not say that you're a member of journalism, no, I would not.

GLENN: I didn't say I was a member of journalism.

CALLER: Your commentary is not necessary.

GLENN: Hang on just a second. So now you're saying, Michael, you got -- you should hang up, you really should, because you are going to lose this. You are now saying opinions of individuals are not covered in free speech?

CALLER: No, I didn't say that at all.

GLENN: That's what you just said. You said my opinion.

CALLER: The opinion of members of the press, which is protected by the First Amendment, helps the enemy.

GLENN: No, sir. Members of the press, that is not the only thing that is covered. Members of the press, your right to free speech, it wasn't talking about newspapers. It is talking about the right of people to stand up and say what they believe without the fear of government or being thrown in jail. Are you now reducing our freedom of speech to only journalists?

CALLER: No, I'm certainly not. I'm saying that you are speaking as an individual and not a member of the press. The New York Times is doing its job by acting like journalists.

GLENN: Again, so what is the difference? What is the difference? They have a right to profit because they're a member of the press corps which, sir, I am a member of the press corps. I'm not a journalist, but I'm a member of the press corps. So you lose there. But a bigger point, are you saying that the only ones that have a right to their opinion and can make money off of their opinion is members of the press corps? Journalists?

CALLER: And it's unfortunate that that's how you perceive my comments because I have never once --

GLENN: You know what, I'm going to --

CALLER: -- implied that you didn't have the right --

GLENN: I'm going to shut my mouth and you can explain exactly, Michael, what you meant by it's okay for the New York Times to have this opinion and profit on it but it's not okay for me to have an opinion on the New York Times and profit on it. Explain it and I'll zip my mouth.

CALLER: I didn't say that it wasn't okay. What I said is I don't think it benefits America. I don't necessarily think that everything the New York Times does specifically benefits America. Perhaps that's the issue. Perhaps that's the problem is that certain members of the press and certain members of opinion and commentary like yourself are too focused on trying to benefit themselves rather than trying to help America, and I don't think that statements like saying that the New York Times helping the enemy is going to benefit America. I don't think the New York Times saying that you are a hatemonger and a jingoist is going to benefit America. When are we all going to get on the same page? We have much bigger problems to deal with in this country than whether or not the New York Times reported on one specific program one time in 2007. We have -- we have bridges fall down in Minnesota. 40,000 people without health insurance, those are much bigger issues than whether or not the New York Times did its job by publishing an article on something the American people have the right to know and that's what their government is doing behind closed doors.

GLENN: Okay. Michael, now let me respond. First of all, I do think that there is a bigger problem in the world than the New York Times. Did he hang up?

STU: Yeah, he's gone.

END TRANSCRIPT

Laika the Space Dog wrote:Pup...that Mime Porno isn't our Mime. If you go through the thread you'll find his web site and see some of his performances. This "Michael" said he's from Wheeling but I don't think so....

Glenn Beck is on in the mornings before Rush on a lot of talk radio stations. Check him out if you can. He's funny.

Oh thanks. I did see one of those videos from The Mime here.... though from what I could see, the porno mime could be the same guy though he doesn't look to be quite as emaciated as The Mime. Actually, I pray they are the same... it is just too frightful to think there can actually be more than one mime outside of France.

That is the transcript I read... plus I also went to see some of his inane and insane rants at his site. He really is a complete moron... I really got a kick out of an entry he had about how the Bushilter and the evil Republicans had been proven to steal the election in Florida. At the last count I saw, of the 20 or 30 recounts I know have been done, Gore won in only one scenario. In fact, it was on the news (amazingly enough) just a few weeks ago that yet another recount study showed Bush winning again, even using the same conditions that the Algore machine called for in court.

We don't have Glenn Beck on the radio here. Now the Pup did make the sacrifice for the Party, to be a 24-7 member of the capitalist pig Rush's site so I can keep track of his evil schemes. The Pup, even now, to show his distaste of Rush, is drinking his Che Guevera Coffee from a Give Peace a Chance Rush coffee mug. Why, I have even went so far as to own a Club Gitmo shirt so I can infiltrate the enemies camp unnoticed! For the Party, I will do whatever it takes!

The only way to deal with these people is the way that Florence King deals with feminist writers. She tired of trying to reason with them and in one of her "Misanthrope's Corner" articles in NR said, "All you can do is get down and wrestle in the dirt with them. So here goes."

What a woman. Got all her stuff. She retired but is now making a comeback--a friend, who is an editor, said that she got an email from him saying that when she'd sorted her paper clips by color and size, she realized she was bored and did he have a book for her to review? That's good news.

Commissar Theocritus wrote:What a woman. Got all her stuff. She retired but is now making a comeback--a friend, who is an editor, said that she got an email from him saying that when she'd sorted her paper clips by color and size, she realized she was bored and did he have a book for her to review? That's good news.

Love that put down... will find use for it in the future no doubt!

You can find, used, <i>Southern Ladies and Gentlemen</i> which is a description of us in the South--making Texas part of the south. There are the dragons, the good old boys, and then in one chapter, The Town Fairy. Which lays me out.

Also <i>Wasp, Where Is Thy Sting</i> is worth the read, but the best is her autobiography, <i>Confessions of a Failed Southern Lady</i> and her essays, <i>Reflections in a Jaundiced Eye</i>, a nice paradiorthosis on the title of a very empurpled movie with Liz Taylor, Marlon Brando, and Brian Keith--and ending really puzzles me. Also there is <i>With Charity Toward None: A Fond Look at Misanthropy</i>. This led to her decade-long column in <i>National Review</i> on the back page, collected into </i>Stet! Dammit</i>.

What a gal. Conservative, and with a dagger in her hand. Utterly fearless, able to tease out things. Her dissection of Paris Hilton in a July NR is priceless. Once she made a comment about some of her lesbian phases, and in NR: "I didn't mind if they called me a pervert, but I'd die if they called me a Democrat."

Me too.

Commissar Theocritus wrote:You can find, used, <i>Southern Ladies and Gentlemen</i> which is a description of us in the South--making Texas part of the south.

Well of course Texicans are southern! Bless their hears, Texican's were just a bit late coming to the table when the Lord was passing out intelligence....

As every true southerner knows, one can disparage anyone and get away with it provided one adds "bless her/his heart."

Bless her heart, the MTE is so bucktoothed she could eat an apple through a picket fence.

Actually Texans are neither truly southern nor western nor midwestern--the state is a combination of all. East Texas seems foreign to me; El Paso seems to be more Rocky Mountain; Amarillo more like Kansas--but what do you expect in a state larger than any European nation? Or one with 1/3 the people of Great Britain but 1/2 the economy?

My favorite comment was Bob Strauss who said some years ago about some Texans who had run circles around some Yankees, "Just because we talk slow don't mean we think slow."

Unfortunately we also gave the world the odious LBJ, Jim Wright, Ralph Yarborough, Governors Ferguson, Ferguson and Richards, and of course our present Empty Suit, Rick Perry. Who is not bad, but merely a repository for hair gel.

Commissar Theocritus wrote:Actually Texans are neither truly southern nor western nor midwestern--the state is a combination of all.

Ah, but ya'll are southern in the most important sense, Texas was on the right side in the War of Northern Aggression, and Texas has never ceded their right to secede from the US. You know, people forget an important point, the south was not in rebellion. The union was supposed to be a voluntary union.... that imperialist Republican Lincoln used military force to maintain his empire!

Perhaps the most interesting and accurate quotes I have ever seen on the subject is this:

"If you bring these leaders to trial it will condemn the North, for by the Constitution secession is not rebellion."

- Chief Justice of the U.S. Supreme Court privately delivered this opinion on charging captured Confederate officers with treason.

Taney?

By an interesting crotchet, under the treaty of admission to the Union, Texas has right right to either secede or to divide into up to five states. Which might be an interesting thing in and of itself and would decisively tip the balance of the Senate back from the grave.

Commissar Pupovich wrote:

Commissar Theocritus wrote:Actually Texans are neither truly southern nor western nor midwestern--the state is a combination of all.

Ah, but ya'll are southern in the most important sense, Texas was on the right side in the War of Northern Aggression, and Texas has never ceded their right to secede from the US. You know, people forget an important point, the south was not in rebellion. The union was supposed to be a voluntary union.... that imperialist Republican Lincoln used military force to maintain his empire!

You know that is right. As always with everyone else, when I was young it was explained to me by people (besides my parents of course) that the south was in rebellion. Then I got into college and my (take note) extremely *liberal* pro-Hillary history professor informed us that he would dispute the very fact that we were in a "civil" war. He said that we, the south did indeed have our own military, currency, and our own president. It just does not fit the profile of a "civil" war. Them @*!^& Republicans (irony, no?) attacked us because all we wanted to do was leave, and for what? No, not slavery as everyone says, that was the argument, but the war was over states rights, how big do you want your federal government, the same thing that we are still fighting politically over today. By the way, love the "War of Northern Aggression" bit, my father, born and raised in South Carolina (got to Texas as quick as he could) was taught that very thing in his text books.

Also, If you had to force a Texan to put himself in a region, he would be proud to be the south, but Texas' problem is that it has never had the change in attitude from being its own country. Texas has just always been so different from all the other states.