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WAR IN UKRAINE UPDATES (from Ukrainian- and Russian-language sources)

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My apologies for not posting more often. As you may know, I was born and grew up in Ukraine, and my parents and my extended family still live there. For a week now, I've been following the war in Ukraine and posting updates on the Cube's Twitter account. So here's something I posted there today, which I then reassembled into a more or less coherent story for you to read if anyone is interested.
 
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WAR IN UKRAINE, DAY 7

According to captured Russian officers, the Russian army is now bogged down and has no strategy. They hadn't expected such resistance, their "minor incursion" and capturing Kyiv has failed, they've run out of food and fuel because they'd been confident the "special operation" would last 3 days max (it's been a week now). Russian soldiers don't want to fight Ukrainians, their morale is low. Ukrainian military has now taken the strategic initiative and the Russians are simply trying to survive.

I'm beginning to wonder if the plan to quickly capture Kyiv & install a puppet government was what Biden meant by "minor incursion" where he'd forego sanctions. If so, has he discussed it w/ Putin in such terms, and was his offer to Zelensky to evacuate to the U.S. part of the plan? If you remember, Zelensky said in response, “I need ammunition, not a ride.”

Looking back several days later, I think that answer may have been pivotal to how the world will live from now on, because Taiwan and China are also watching this. Had Zelensky abandoned his country and it were to collapse, that would be a signal to China to invade Taiwan, and a signal to Taiwan that resistance is futile. But Ukraine and Zelensky have shown them and the rest of us that resistance is not futile.

That resistance has given courage to the rest of the world to come together and oppose Putin's aggression more openly and vigorously. Even Germany that had shied from this conflict at first, is now stepping up, providing aid and redoubling its contributions to NATO.

It seems that Ukraine's determination to fight to the end has thrown a wrench into many big plans. Not being able to predict Ukraine's response was a major miscalculation on the part of many, most of all, Putin, for whom it may be fatal.

My mistake of thinking this war would never happen was because I couldn't imagine Putin and others would misread Ukrainians so badly.

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Red Square wrote:
3/2/2022, 8:10 pm
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It seems that Ukraine's determination to fight to the end has thrown a wrench into many big plans. Not being able to predict Ukraine's response was a major miscalculation on the part of many, most of all, Putin, for whom it may be fatal.
За Україну!

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Red Square wrote:
3/2/2022, 8:10 pm
Zelensky said in response, “I need ammunition, not a ride.”

Looking back several days later, I think that answer may have been pivotal to how the world will live from now on, because Taiwan and China are also watching this. Had Zelensky abandoned his country and it were to collapse, that would be a signal to China to invade Taiwan, and a signal to Taiwan that resistance is futile. But Ukraine and Zelensky have shown them and the rest of us that resistance is not futile.

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Who would have predicted a month ago that Zelensky and the Ukrainians would be the ones that save the world as we know it?  Congrats to all that did the heavy lifting.

Now, if we could only get people with stones like that in the U.S.

 

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I've been answering many questions today, including from our member in good standing, Olga Photoshopova. Here are some.

OP: What do you think is the left's angle for pushing the US to be involved?

RS: Dirty politics. They've turned Russia into a convenient bogeyman with Trump, and are now using Ukraine to continue the narrative and to show how they're all standing up for noble causes. In my mind, Putin is indeed an evil war criminal and Ukraine is indeed fighting for a noble cause. So it is nauseating to see how this tragedy is exploited by self-absorbed leftists for political gain. And unfortunately some conservatives are too simple-minded and fall for the reverse psychology trick - if the left opposes Putin and supports Ukraine, Putin must be good and Ukraine must be bad. In reality, this is a case where an enemy of your enemy is still your enemy.

OP: Do you know why there are so many fake images being used by our media? (From old wars, or different situations)

RS: This conflict hasn't begun last week, it's been going since 2014, and has taken about 14,000 of Ukrainian lives. So there's a lot of footage from this war that can be recycled as illustrations to new stories. There can be wishful thinking, too, and I myself once tweeted an older video, which didn't make it a hoax, it was a real video from the same conflict, albeit a few years earlier. Still, I quickly removed it after someone pointed that out. When the official media does it, it could be just lazy journalism, recycling stock photos from previous years, and the media people aren't known to be the sharpest pencils in the box. On the other hand, Russian propaganda is pretty active, and one of their methods is to plant fake stories and then victoriously debunk them. Conflating the latter with the former is a convenient way to make you throw the baby out with the bath water.

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Comrades, lately, our media seems to be performing daily lobotomy reassignment surgery. In fact, as they consistently attempt to offer a glimmer of hope for those longing for death, they are finally addressing progressive concerns that transgender acceptance in Ukraine is not widespread. Thankfully, CBS News spoke with one woman in Kyiv who is now battling a "war within a war" because his birth certificate declares that he is in fact a male amid Russia's invasion. Perhaps, our illustrious leader, Joe Biden will address these concerns of transgenders with a clear and firm plan for what needs to be done to ensure their protection, safety, and estrogen levels. Only then, we will watch in awe as a procession of celebrities, military leaders, climate gigolos, and political figures make their way in front of cameras because any true blue-blooded progressive who cares about transgender welfare even amid reckless, ineffective foreign policies, the death, and destruction of the people of Ukraine will demand an end to this malfeasance. It’s good to know that our media and leaders have our concerns.

Douglas Murray. VD Hanson and Steyn (to a degree) have been on point with this same sentiment.  Putin has spent a good bit of effort pointing out how much of the cultural and political tide in West has been decadent and spiritually corrupt with its wokeness, shrillness, self righteousness to the point of betraying classical liberal ideals. He was correct in that assumption but that doesn't change the fact that he's a downright murderous bastard and he has no compunction against invoking the worst sort of morality in the pursuit of his political goals.  Hanson said many on the right risked becoming marginalized like people such as Charles Lindbergh. Perish the thought, slava ukraini!
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I miss seeing Olga around the tractor barn. Please tell her she's not meeting her beet quota...

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Red Square wrote:
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Who would have predicted a month ago that Zelensky and the Ukrainians would be the ones that save the world as we know it?  Congrats to all that did the heavy lifting.

Now, if we could only get people with stones like that in the U.S.

  We have them, and thankfully we have people like you to help us understand that part of the world.  The problem, as I see it, is that the US media, globalists that they are, display the worst of the American male for global consumption.  Like the Ukrainians, there are millions of us who'd rather die than surrender to a foreign power, and many of us are armed and have had formal training.  That all being said, yes, there are too many Americans willing to surrender their freedom, but I think the plight of Ukraine has, at least as far as I can see, woken up some who had been sleeping over the past few decades.  
 

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Red Square wrote:
3/2/2022, 10:34 pm

OP: What do you think is the left's angle for pushing the US to be involved?

RS: Dirty politics. They've turned Russia into a convenient bogeyman with Trump, and are now using Ukraine to continue the narrative and to show how they're all standing up for noble causes. In my mind, Putin is indeed an evil war criminal and Ukraine is indeed fighting for a noble cause. So it is nauseating to see how this tragedy is exploited by self-absorbed leftists for political gain. And unfortunately some conservatives are too simple-minded and fall for the reverse psychology trick - if the left opposes Putin and supports Ukraine, Putin must be good and Ukraine must be bad. In reality, this is a case where an enemy of your enemy is still your enemy.
Absolutely.  I've had to lay this out for a few ignorant people I know who have decided they want to weight into geopolitics because they watched CNN the other night.  One member of my family accused me of supporting Putin because I was critical of Biden.  I reminded him that it was a false dichotomy and that my observance that Biden is a dunce and a weakling, and did everything possible to embolden Putin had nothing to do with my hatred of Putin.  Then I went on to list a litany of examples, going back to the 80s with Ted Kennedy's direct involvement with the KGB via an aid, of how the Democrat party has always been the red diaper babies who have given aid and comfort to Russia.  From reset buttons, to blankets instead of weapons to Ukraine, to "more flexibility" and "the 80s called and want their foreign policy back" the left has been entirely supportive of the Russian regime post Soviet Union.  They were before as well, they just had to hide it better. 

Now suddenly the left sounds like the ghost of McCarthy.  The same party that hated our involvement in fighting the Soviet backed Vietnamese, are suddenly right of George Kennan on containment.
 

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A colleague ran across this article. I thought I'd post the link here and invite the thoughts of the Collective as to the validity of the article and mentality of the writer:
https://mil.in.ua/en/news/brave-new-wor ... f-ukraine/

Also, does any member of the Collective have a source providing any information as to events-on-the-ground in Ukraine more reliable than the gossip behind Tractor Barn #2?

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Red Square wrote:
3/2/2022, 8:10 pm

WAR IN UKRAINE, DAY 7

According to captured Russian officers, the Russian army is now bogged down and has no strategy. They hadn't expected such resistance, their "minor incursion" and capturing Kyiv has failed, they've run out of food and fuel because they'd been confident the "special operation" would last 3 days max (it's been a week now). Russian soldiers don't want to fight Ukrainians, their morale is low. Ukrainian military has now taken the strategic initiative and the Russians are simply trying to survive.
Sounds like the beginning of the American Civil War where the North expected the South to fold in only a few weeks.

It seems that even the Russian's have trouble with the Russian winter during an invasion...

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Ivan Betinov wrote:
3/3/2022, 10:37 pm
A colleague ran across this article. I thought I'd post the link here and invite the thoughts of the Collective as to the validity of the article and mentality of the writer:
https://mil.in.ua/en/news/brave-new-wor ... f-ukraine/

The funniest part is the author's bio: "He is adhering to right-wing, conservative-nationalist political views."

This looks legit and sounds much like one of the latest speeches by Vladimir Putin. I wonder if this guy might be his speechwriter.

That said, this can easily be rewritten by changing "Russia" to "Germany" and "Ukraine" to "Britain."

The beginning of Germany and the new world

(An article prewritten for the expected British surrender to the Third Reich)

A new world is being born before our eyes. Germany's military operation in Britain has ushered in a new era – in three dimensions at once...

Germany is restoring its unity; the tragedy of 1919, this terrible catastrophe in our history, its unnatural dislocation, has been overcome. Yes, at a great cost, yes, through the tragic events of a virtual civil war, because now brothers, separated by belonging to the German and British armies, are still shooting at each other, but there will be no more Britain as anti-Germany. Germany is restoring its historical fullness, gathering the German world, the German people together – in its entirety of Germans, Franks, and Anglo-Saxons.

If we had abandoned this, if we had allowed the temporary division to take hold for centuries, then we would not only betray the memory of our ancestors, but would also be cursed by our descendants for allowing the disintegration of the German land.

I could continue, but it gets repetitive...

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Alternatively...

An article prewritten for the expected British victory in the Revolutionary War.

A new world is being born before our eyes. Britain's military operation in the North American colonies has ushered in a new era – in three dimensions at once...

The British Empire is restoring its unity; the tragedy of 1776, this terrible catastrophe in our history, its unnatural dislocation, has been overcome. Yes, at a great cost, yes, through the tragic events of a virtual civil war, because now brothers, separated by belonging to the Royal and Colonial armies, are still shooting at each other, but there will be no more America as anti-Britain. The Great Britain is restoring its historical fullness, gathering the British Empire, the British people together – in its entirety of Anglo-Saxons, Scots, and the Irish.

If we had abandoned this, if we had allowed the temporary division to take hold for centuries, then we would not only betray the memory of our ancestors, but would also be cursed by our descendants for allowing the disintegration of the British Empire.

You get the idea...

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Ellsworth Toohey wrote:
3/2/2022, 10:06 pm
Red Square wrote:
3/2/2022, 8:10 pm
Zelensky said in response, “I need ammunition, not a ride.”

Looking back several days later, I think that answer may have been pivotal to how the world will live from now on, because Taiwan and China are also watching this. Had Zelensky abandoned his country and it were to collapse, that would be a signal to China to invade Taiwan, and a signal to Taiwan that resistance is futile. But Ukraine and Zelensky have shown them and the rest of us that resistance is not futile.

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Who would have predicted a month ago that Zelensky and the Ukrainians would be the ones that save the world as we know it?  Congrats to all that did the heavy lifting.

Now, if we could only get people with stones like that in the U.S.



A comedian and entertainer who understood the irony of life and politics was the one who stood up and gave the middle finger to Putin. And our feckless "leadership" is nowhere to be seen.

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I could write a very, very long rant about the nauseating leftists I've seen exploiting Ukraine on social media, but for now I think it's best to keep this brief. Let me just say that the media suddenly seems very enamored of Zelensky in a way I haven't seen since Obama, and I'm not sure what to make of all that.

But it reminds me of the time several years ago, when Rolling Stone magazine put Justin Trudeau on their cover with the whine, "Why can't he be our president?"

So far the media has stopped short of something like that. Just short.  So far. Hope springs eternal, or people wouldn't keep voting Democrat. I'm waiting.

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Ivan Betinov wrote:
3/3/2022, 10:37 pm
A colleague ran across this article. I thought I'd post the link here and invite the thoughts of the Collective as to the validity of the article and mentality of the writer:
https://mil.in.ua/en/news/brave-new-wor ... f-ukraine/

Also, does any member of the Collective have a source providing any information as to events-on-the-ground in Ukraine more reliable than the gossip behind Tractor Barn #2?
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It amazes me how everything authoritarian that is not approved socialism is labeled as "right wing" and anything that is freedom or libertarian oriented is also labeled as "right wing" and there's very little questioning of that.
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Let me just say that the media suddenly seems very enamored of Zelensky in a way I haven't seen since Obama, and I'm not sure what to make of all that.

Putin is not an approved authoritarian socialist so the propaganda must oppose him. He was an approved socialist authoritarian socialist until President* Biden's polling numbers ended up in the sewer but now the American left need a war story to improve their electoral hopes and so a propaganda sacrifice had to be made.
 

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Мade this meme today using the paintings of a young Ukrainian artist, Anastasia Orobko.

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The one on the right reminds me of Pinkie [ducks, runs away in a zigzag pattern]


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I'd love for that to happen. I can't express how sad I am to see what's happening to your homeland, Oleg. I pray your family is ok. We like to joke around here and make fun of and point out the ironies of what various governments are doing around the world but there's nothing funny about this. It disgusts me that this has occurred and that the USA government is complicit in allowing this to happen because of its weakness. Cowardice always invites cowardly actions.

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We're in a LOT of trouble, comrades. According to Joe Biden, Russia invaded Iran and Putin invaded Russia. WTF?

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Thank you for posting this, Oleg.  It's become obvious that I can't believe anything I read or see about Ukraine.  The Leftwing American media are lying, the right-wingers on right-wing social media are blindly supporting Putin, and nobody is telling the truth.

I trust you, and have been waiting to form my own opinions on this mess until hearing from you.

So... again, thank you.

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Well, here is an interesting development: The Russian government has made "fake news" illegal and punishable with 15 years in prison. CNN immediately cancelled its broadcasts into Russia. Apparently, CNN doesn't want to spend 15 years in a Russian gulag.

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I suppose we could try what's been done worldwide for many years, we send in Canadian Peacekeepers... if they could only find enough trucks to support movement from their bases to the port of embarkation.

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Ivan the Stakhanovets wrote:
3/6/2022, 5:19 pm
I suppose we could try what's been done worldwide for many years, we send in Canadian Peacekeepers... if they could only find enough trucks to support movement from their bases to the port of embarkation.
The Canadian peace keepers must be trained by the Russians because they employ the same kind of tactics.
 

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Thank you for these insider clarifications, comrade director. I hope your family and friends are ok! I must admit I was surprised by Putin's move. I thought the Russian boogeyman was mostly made up in order to divert attention from the failures of Western leftists on domestic issues, and I thought Vladimir would be too shrewd to risk his career, legacy and life in a bloody Afghanistan reboot, but it seems I was completely wrong.

I admire the fighting spirit of Zelenski and many Ukranian citizens. Some European right-wing personalities try to warn for a one sided view and point to Russian fears about "Nato-at-the-doorstep" and an open flank on the plains of eastern Ukraine where tanks could roll on to Moscow, but all this - together with admittedly crappy European and US diplomacy - can never really explain and surely not sanction such a blatant and bloody invasion of another people's territory.

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That alleged Russia's fear of NATO is pure nonsense. If Russians are fearful of NATO, that's because Putin's state-run TV channels have been lying about it for close to 20 years now.

No one in the West believes the lethargic Europe or NATO have any plans to invade Russia. They haven't even been able to threaten Russia properly when this war started. Apparently, Putin knows that NATO is indeed impotent, which is why he went ahead with the invasion. That proves his narrative about how Russians are afraid of NATO is a joke.

Instead, it is the nations in Eastern Europe who are afraid of Russia's aggression, which is why they've been begging NATO to accept them, not the other way around. And now Putin is proving them right.

If Putin were to occupy or absorb Ukraine, he'd be bordering on Poland, a NATO country. Back to square one. Nothing he claims makes any sense. It's surprising people are falling for it.

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Red Square wrote:
3/6/2022, 9:45 pm
It's surprising people are falling for it.
I don't think it's so much that people are falling for it but that people are afraid of how far Putin will go. It's the same fear that Hitler used to push his European designs. I think Putin is thinking the same way. The difference is that Hitler didn't have nukes. Just because somebody is intelligent doesn't mean they're sane. We're seeing that play out.
 

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Another question for our inside source: I saw maps about the linguistic and cultural divisions of Ukraine, and the eastern and southern parts seem to be predominantly Russian speaking. Do these people identify as "Russians" in any way? Is there sympathy for the Russian cause in these parts of the country? Is there any form of discrimination against the Russian speaking people in these regions? I know from the Baltic states that after some forced "colonisation" during the Soviet rule that the local Russian populations are not really held in high esteem (which I can understand to a certain extent). This aspect of the conflict is sometimes highlighted by the European right, but I do not know how to interpret it correctly since little that we learn about it is neutral information.

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Nothing more to say except that the NAZI were just as brutal, which is a history this woman apparently doesn't know.

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Red Square wrote:
3/6/2022, 9:45 pm
That alleged Russia's fear of NATO is pure nonsense. If Russians are fearful of NATO, that's because Putin's state-run TV channels have been lying about it for close to 20 years now.

No one in the West believes the lethargic Europe or NATO have any plans to invade Russia. They haven't even been able to threaten Russia properly when this war started. Apparently, Putin knows that NATO is indeed impotent, which is why he went ahead with the invasion. That proves his narrative about how Russians are afraid of NATO is a joke.

Instead, it is the nations in Eastern Europe who are afraid of Russia's aggression, which is why they've been begging NATO to accept them, not the other way around. And now Putin is proving them right.

If Putin were to occupy or absorb Ukraine, he'd be bordering on Poland, a NATO country. Back to square one. Nothing he claims makes any sense. It's surprising people are falling for it.

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Here's what looks like a comedy skit but it's not. The Moscow police is arresting everyone who talks to the camera regardless of their views. The first woman was taken away for a small sign saying "Two words" (a substitute for "no war"). The second woman was agreeing with Putin - same result.


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Did those stormtroopers ever find Corbin Dallas?

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Ellsworth Toohey wrote:
3/13/2022, 5:26 pm
Did those stormtroopers ever find Corbin Dallas?
They're saving him for dessert.
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Colonel Obyezyana wrote:
3/13/2022, 6:07 pm
Ellsworth Toohey wrote:
3/13/2022, 5:26 pm
Did those stormtroopers ever find Corbin Dallas?
They're saving him for dessert.
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The uniforms are eerily similar.

Edit, apologies for altered graphics. I blaim my phone and Russian hackers.

And were the snake island boys quoting Corbin's neighbor?

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Assertions of Freedom are "Provocative" ONLY to Tyrants.
I tire of hearing Tucker Carlson* and Rachel Campos Duffy asserting that if Canada were to suddenly become a puppet-state of Russia poised to attack the U.S., we in the U.S. would consider it "provocative" and therefore we should deem Ukraine's desire for it's freedom to become safer from Russian tyranny as a form of "provocation" that somehow justifies Putin's war to destroy freedom in Ukraine.  Advocacy of freedom (or assertion of the intention to retain freedom) is intrinsically "provocative" to tyrants seeking to extinguish it.  So what?  Do we deem people hiring armed guards for protection against criminals to be a form of "provocation" of such criminals?  To equate the two circumstances (as do Duffy and Carlson) is to foolishly equate the value of freedom with the evil of tyranny.  It's as wrongheaded as to claim that arming the police should be deemed "provocative" to criminals.  To treat assertions of freedom as "provocative" is to guarantee the ultimate triumph of tyranny over liberty-- the reverse of what Ronald Reagan and John F. Kennedy championed and what Ukraine's President Volodymyr Zelensky is currently seeking to champion.
 
See non-YouTube videos which won't embed here:

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https://PoliticalXray.Com/Video/JFK-Bea ... n-1961.mp4

or view both videos embedded here .

*Even though Mother Jones is almost always wrong on almost everything, once in a rare while, it get something "right."

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Thank you, comrade Kook, for bringing this up.

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It's amazing how conservatives who used to be so clear-headed about absolute moral standards and dismissive of moral relativity, have suddenly become so feeble-minded and easily swayed by cheap tricks of the Kremlin charlatan. After they've demonstrated such great lapses in judgment, I don't know if I'll ever be able to trust their opinions on anything. And that includes not just Tucker, but also Gateway Pundit, and other previously trusted conservative sources.

Here's a tip on recognizing media fakes and the debunking of true stories as fakes, from my personal experience: if the war is referred to as "special military operation" and/or mentions "denazification," that's a dead giveaway of Russian propaganda trying to frame the debate on their own terms. It's a direct translation of Putin's language. In Russia, people are arrested for even calling this a war, they are forced to refer to it as a "special military operation." That's why it sickens me that in our free country, people who espouse freedom, voluntarily promote a narrative that is designed to enslave.

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KOOK wrote:
3/15/2022, 7:34 am
Even though Mother Jones is almost always wrong on almost everything, once in a rare while, it get something "right." ETC...
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Comrade, your first mistake was reading recycled propaganda from Politcal X-Ray, who parroted second-hand propaganda from leftist Mother Jones, who drew its propaganda from the far-left Washington Post, which is aligned with the rest of lamestream media in attacking Tucker Carlson for not going along with the “let’s start a war” narrative that leftists, Democrats, and globalists dearly want.

At no time has Tucker Carlson expressed “support” for Putin. Neither did Donald Trump or Mike Pompeo or Rachel Campos Duffy—but you wouldn’t know that if you relied on Political X-Ray, Mother Jones or The Washington Post as trusted sources of information.

Have a look at this deceptively written WAPO sentence [brackets are mine]:

The Fox News host [Carlson], who acknowledged that he’s attempting to interview Putin [not a crime or a show of support] , said this week that it was “not treason, it is not un-American” to support Putin. “It’s the whole point of America,” he said Monday.

Note that the words, to support Putin, are outside the quotes. Carlson never said them, rather, WAPO deceptively slipped in those words to make it appear that Carlson said them. It is a sneaky form of editorial malpractice that’s quite popular among propagandists.

Putting aside for a moment that Putin’s invasion of Ukraine is illegal and reprehensible, which most of us—including Tucker Carlson—easily agree with, Tucker Carlson has proven to have a wider vision and better focus on the conflict than the Democrat/Globalist-owned media.

Carlson has been ripping aside the leftist narrative and reminding us that we can’t blame Putin for the domestic and international problems caused exclusively by the Biden Administration and its allies. The rest of the so-called “free” press works hard to divert attention from the catastrophic activities of the Biden regime and they hate that Carlson is spoiling their efforts.

Carlson has been reminding us that the Biden Administration’s has intentionally permitted an invasion of over two million unvetted foreigners at the U.S. southern borders yet wants to us defend the integrity of the borders of a nation that launders Hunter Biden’s ill-gained money.

Carson has been reminding us that Democrats need a war to distract us from their efforts to reduce the U.S. to third-world status, which would energize the Russia-China-Iran axis and facilitate the elimination of the U.S. as a superpower.

Carlson has also been reminding us that the people in the U.S. armed forces who risk their lives to protect U.S. interests are seldom the sons and daughters of the privileged and wealthy people who start the wars, they are most often the children of lower and middle class workers.

Carlson makes the point again and again that defense of Ukraine is not of vital interest to the security of the U.S., which does not imply support for Putin but strongly affirms that we should not sacrifice our children for Ukraine where their very presence could spark a nuclear world war.

Based on the obvious, you should know by now that the left attacks and vilifies those whom they fear the most: those who expose them and reveal their extreme machinations. Don’t let them weaken you with their cheap propagandistic tactics—leftist-owned media never represents our best interests, they represent chaos, disorder, divisiveness and destruction.

I make no apologies to you, Kook, or to Red Square for countering leftist propaganda. If the left is pointing its filthy lying finger at Tucker Carlson you can be damned sure that he's onto something they want to hide.

 

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Yes, the leftist propaganda is sickening. With friends like these, who needs enemies? Yet, not everyone they attack is our ally.

Tucker may not have praised Putin directly, but he definitely favors guests who restate Putin's propaganda, who spread lies about Ukraine while it's being bombed, and diminish its suffering. Tucker is picking up their false arguments, and that is a lapse in judgment. Let me explain.

It's a false argument that anyone who supports Ukraine against Russia wants America to be bogged down in another war and lose its soldiers. I would never call for American boys to go and die in Ukraine. There are many ways of supporting a country without sending an army. Ukraine has shown it's capable of standing for itself, but given its smaller size it needs support.

This false argument - that support of Ukraine means dragging America into WW3 - is now being restated over and over by a segment of conservatives that have lost their moral compass.

It is also a false argument that anyone critical of the Democrats' motives over this war is a Putin troll and a traitor. I'll be the first to point out that Biden and the rest of the Obama team had turned Ukraine into a feeding trough with their corrupt schemes. But that has little to do with Putin's paranoia and his megalomaniacal motives to invade Ukraine and the rest of the former Soviet territories, redefining established borders and setting an example for other bad actors and a precedent that may indeed lead to WW3.

So in the end, we find America split in two warring factions that hit each other over the head with these two arguments about Putin and Russia, both of which are false.

Who is benefitting from this confrontation and these false arguments? Nobody but Putin's Russia.

Russian influence operations have been targeting America for decades. Its propaganda is deeply embedded and sophisticated enough to appear as honest opinions of concerned citizens. What betrays it is the narcissistic feature of making everything about Russia.

We are being dragged into sympathizing with Russia over its bogus fears of NATO, its self-serving "national interests," it's phony "spirituality" and so on. It's time to see Putin's Russia as a manipulative drama queen that is dragging everyone into its alcohol-fueled problems and then using the suckers as tools to achieve its soulless goals.

We shouldn't be co-dependent in this manipulative behavior.

Americans were split over Russia and its exploits throughout the Cold War; then, after a brief break, they became split over "Russian collusion," and now over "Russian geopolitical interests" in Ukraine. This will surely continue with another story, in which Russia will attack someone else, while crying and describing itself as the sorriest little victim.

This will only stop if the world finally sees Russia for what it is, pushes it away and tells her, "Shut up, bitch!"

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Red Square wrote:
3/16/2022, 2:06 pm
Whatever is printed in red.
Yes, the leftist propaganda is sickening. With friends like these, who needs enemies? Yet, not everyone they attack is our ally.
See last night’s (March 15) episode of Tucker Carlson Tonight before you make that judgement.
 
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Tucker may not have praised Putin, but he definitely favors guests who restate Putin's propaganda, who spread lies about Ukraine while it's being bombed, and diminish its suffering. That is a lapse in judgment.
Hardly. Carlson’s team has selected guests who don’t favor war at any cost. Whether they restate Russian propaganda or spread lies about Ukraine is questionable (the bio-labs turned out to be real, the Russian claim that they are bio-weapon factories remains to be proven). Objective views are hard to discern when you view them as subjective.   


It's a false argument that anyone who supports Ukraine against Russia wants America to be bogged down in another war and lose its soldiers. I would never call for American boys to go and die in Ukraine. There are many ways of supporting a country without sending an army. Ukraine has shown it's capable of standing for itself, but given its smaller size it needs support.
It is not a false argument that a portion of those who support Ukraine against Russia hope to exploit the situation as the crisis they desperately need to continue governing in a crisis mode: they want a war and their Rahm Emmanuel mantra is, “You never let a serious crisis go to waste…it's an opportunity to do things you think you could not do before.”


It is this false argument - that support of Ukraine means dragging America into WW3 - that's being restated over and over by a segment of conservatives that have lost their moral compass.
Support of Ukraine may not cause WWIII but direct military intervention on Ukraine’s behalf can. It is not a loss of any moral compass to be clear headed enough to understand that a nuclear-armed madman seems more than willing to start WWIII the moment he deems that our support crosses his line, and that madman alone will decide where that line is and whether it’s crossed.  


It is also a false argument that anyone critical of the Democrats' motives over this war is a Putin's troll and a traitor. I'll be the first to point out that Biden and the rest of the Obama team had turned Ukraine into a feeding trough their corrupt schemes. 
True.
But that has little to do with Putin's paranoia and his megalomaniacal motives to invade Ukraine and the rest of the former Soviet territories.
Not true, because the argument you describe as false is a tool intended to discredit those who challenge the left’s predicate for hasty and ill-considered action. Those same soulless leftist voices that we usually ignore or ridicule are now virtue signaling fake morality to ramp up the call for U.S. and NATO direct intervention in Ukraine. We never trusted those voices before and we shouldn’t now. Those same people—who faint at the mention of the 2nd Amendment and will sue you for using an incorrect pronoun—always have motives that are immoral, and now they march in lockstep for an intervention that could instantly turn nuclear, biological or chemical.


So in the end, we find America split in two warring factions that hit each other with these two arguments about Putin and Russia, both of which are false.
So, at this point I have shown that your previous assertions are disputable and the above straw man statement is illogical because it relies on your previous assertions to be correct, which they are not.


Who is benefitting from this confrontation and these false arguments? Nobody but Putin.
Putin may benefit from and exploit any confrontation, but the Americans (and others) who call Tucker Carlson (and others) treasonous benefit by falsely turning public opinion against him (and others), thinking it will fortify their artificial moral stance as they seek to start a war that they themselves will never have to fight and the consequences of which they are not taking seriously. 


Russian influence operations have been targeting America for decades. Its propaganda is deeply embedded and sophisticated enough to appear as honest opinions of concerned citizens. What betrays it is the narcissistic feature of making everything about Russia. Americans were split over Russia and its exploits throughout the Cold War; then, after a brief break, they became split over "Russian collusion," and now over "Russian geopolitical interests" in Ukraine.
No dispute.


We are being dragged into sympathizing with Russia over its bogus fears of NATO, its self-serving "national interests," and so on. 
We? The royal “we”? Who is being dragged into sympathizing with Russia? I’m not. Tucker Carlson is not. But “we”—the American People and our allies—are being dragged toward war by radicals who seek to reap a variety of benefits from a major crisis that could easily become the final major war.


It's time to see Putin's Russia as a manipulative drama queen that is dragging everyone into its problems and then using the suckers as tools to achieve its soulless goals.
It’s also possible to see Putin—though not all Russian people—as you described and still express rational views on the grave consequences of ill considered actions.
 
Did you like Biden’s withdrawal from Afghanistan? Do you trust that he and his inept Pentagon and State Department have suddenly become wiser and more talented than they were in August of 2021? Do you think that his administration—which has yet to make any decision beneficial the the United States—can defuse this bomb without blowing it up? They’re more concerned about their carbon footprint!
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Propaganda can be a slippery and unpredictable thing. Don’t fall prey to domestic propaganda that smears Tucker Carlson and other conservatives or to Russian repackaging of it into propaganda for delivery to Ukrainians or to Ukrainians who fell for it.

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I personally don't care what any of the talking heads are saying in this situation (or most situations, for that matter). I care what the leaders of the various nations are saying. The talking heads may be cause for topics of discussion (and often not) but the national leaders actually make a difference to the outcome. What they say is what concerns or encourages me.

It seems that Putin has underestimated Ukrainian determination to be free and European support for their freedom. I'm hopeful Ukraine can recover all their territory after this is over.

It's certainly been an embarrassment for Putin and it should be a warning to China. China claims military superiority but they have never won a war. Every attempt they have made recently has resulted in embarrassment.

Just because people fear you doesn't mean they won't fight you. It more often means they'll fight you with more resolve. We're seeing that in Ukraine.

Whatever the talking heads say or think, what matters is what happens on the ground. That is what I care about and that is what angers me so much about the leadership failure of Europe and the US. The idea of WWIII would not be a talking point if they had all stepped up and said "NO! Not on our watch!"

Russia is weak. China is weak. All these people need to do is show resolve and the threat becomes non-existent. But cowardice breeds aggression.

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Wait, wait, wait conflicted comrades. ‘pelipsky had a dream! In this dream, Hunter, Bill and Hillary’s Foundation, The John and Lindsey War, War, War Coalition, and The Fauci “Let’s Build Better Killer Petri Dishes”, decided to return 13. 6 billion US to the people of Ukraine, instead of charging it to the US taxpayer/client, again.

It was a Glorious Dream, comrades. The entire Collective cheered this MAGAmenity as the money was returned to its rightful owners!

What a dream!

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I reiterate my specific criticism of Duffy and Carlson -- i.e., that it is wrongheaded to deem pre-invasion actions by the U.S., NATO or Ukraine as "provocation" of Putin for what even Colonel Obyezyana characterizes as an "illegal and reprehensible" invasion of Ukraine by Putin.  I'm not going to waste my time addressing straw-man arguments or contentions I did not make.  Even Carlson, most of whose commentary and presentations are excellent, recognizes that one of the most important things for which America stands is free speech, which a fortiori includes free speech criticizing other free speech as being wrongheadedly useful to tyrants opposed to, and seeking to suppress, free speech and liberty.  It's not a concept that's difficult to understand.  Likewise, it's not even slightly difficult for anyone familiar with PoliticalXray.Com to realize that it is the very opposite of "leftist" propaganda.

--KOOK

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The Russians are now calling a crash landing in a muddy field a "tactical landing in a Ukrainian airfield". I'm not sure what the tactical advantage of that is but it's an interesting tactic to use.

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This is a quote from Putin puppet Medvedev, who is now Deputy Chairman of the Security Council of Russia:


While Europe is getting painfully aware of the damage the anti-Russian sanctions are causing it, our most favorite European country is, as usual, going ahead of the locomotive. Literally, that is.

The Polish Prime Minister, Mateusz Morawiecki, his Deputy Prime Minister, Jarosław Kaczyński, and the Prime Ministers of the Czech Republic and Slovenia traveled to Kiev by a specially guarded train. Just as Lenin once did, in an armored railwagon, with the German money.

They talked to Zelensky, promising aid and friendship. They lied, of course. Back home, Morawiecki ceremoniously proclaimed that the “de-Russification of the Polish and European economy” program was underway. Having said that, he also courageously clarified that “all this will cost money”.

Morawiecki is absolutely right: It is costly and senseless. Poland, however, can leave these expenses out of consideration; in the long years of fostering pathological Russophobia it has lost whatever it possibly could. So now, as Poland’s favorite neighbors in Ukraine put it, in for a penny, in for a pound.

When it comes to Russia, Poland starts literally writhing in “phantom pains”. Its elites find it too challenging to accept that almost 400 years ago, the Time of Troubles ended with the Polish invaders driven out of the Kremlin, and that later on, the great Commonwealth of Poland failed as well. And that the reason behind all this was not Russia’s scheming, but the internal squabbles, corruption, economic failures and lost battles. And so it went on and on for centuries.

Polish propaganda is the most evil, vulgar and shrill critic of Russia; a community of political imbeciles.

While in our country, concealing even the darkest pages of our shared history is unacceptable, in Poland, they dream of wiping out even the Second World War. First and foremost, they want to forget the Soviet soldiers who defeated Fascism, drove the occupiers out of Polish cities and prevented them from blowing up Kraków, who freed the prisoners of the Oswiecim and Majdanek extermination camps.

Now, history is being re-written, monuments destroyed; instead, the fascist occupation is openly equated to the “Soviet one”. It’s hard to invent rhetoric more deceitful and disgusting, but the Poles succeed.

Yet, in Russia, there weren’t – and aren’t – any anti-Polish sentiments. According to sociologists, the citizens of our country treat that people quite friendly. It is impossible to forget the surge of sympathy and compassion in Russia in the aftermath of the plane crash near Smolensk, when a group of high-ranking officials, headed by the Polish President, died. People were bringing flowers to the embassy and Catholic churches, shared their condolences in the media and social networks. I, as the head of state, declared a Day of Mourning in Russia.

Later, while visiting Poland, I got convinced that nothing stood in the way of our relations’ improvement, that it was a road with oncoming traffic. However, the Polish political elites led by Kaczyński Number Two’s PiS party, controlled by their American masters, did everything in their power to block the natural way.

Presently, the Polish citizens’ interests are being sacrificed to the Russophobia of these inept politicians and their obviously senile overseas puppeteers. The decision to stop buying natural gas, oil, and coal from Russia and resistance to launching Nord Stream 2 have already seriously damaged the country’s economy. Now, it is going to get worse. The same goes for many other moves, driven by cheap politics under the guise of “de-Russification” rather than economic considerations. Yet, at the moment, for the vassal Polish elites it is far more crucial to swear allegiance to their overlord, the United States, than to support their own citizens; which is why they will keep the flames of hatred against their foe, Russia, burning constantly.

What will their citizens gain from this? Absolutely nothing.

Yet, sooner or later, they will understand that hatred for Russia does not help bonding the society and does not promote peace and well-being.

And vice versa: The economic partnership with our country is beneficial for the Poles, human connections are irreplaceable, and the cultural exchange between the motherlands of Pushkin and Mickiewicz, Tchaikovsky and Chopin, Lomonosov and Kopernikus, is vital. Most probably, they will then make the right choice themselves, without the prompts and pressure from the suffering from dementia overseas masters.

They are now threatening Poland which means they are threatening NATO. Shit!


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I've changed the name of this thread to WAR IN UKRAINE UPDATES.

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An analogy to explain #UkraineRussiaWar for some American conservatives: imagine the tyrannical blue states launching an attack against the free red states to "denazify" them.

Ukrainians would be the conservative rednecks fighting for their freedom from the totalitarian supremacy of big government.

Russian troops = Antifa
Ukrainian population= Proud Boys, Oath Keepers, etc.
Maidan = January 6

To be continued...


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Putin won't be done with Just Ukraine. He wants a united Eurasia.

https://redstate.com/streiff/2022/04/05/kremlin-newspaper-and-a-putin-confidant-endorse-genocide-as-russias-final-solution-to-the-ukraine-problem-n545699

This From Putin lackey Medvedev:

The goal is, for the sake of the peace of future generations of Ukrainians themselves, the opportunity to finally build an open Eurasia - from Lisbon to Vladivostok

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A very important summation of Ukraine-Russia War as the First Digital War.


https://www.americanthinker.com/article ... l_war.html

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The Ukrainians have managed to destroy a Russian transport ship at the Port of Berdyansk, sinking it right next to the dock. One report says that the Ukrainians were able to figure out exactly where it was from propaganda footage put out by the Russians showing it being unloaded. They then launched a ballistic missile at it, scoring a direct hit. Here is the result:


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Most Equally Esteemed Komrads,

I am down to my last Anti-Drone Round. 

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Anti-Drone Round

The photo shows the round is ready to be fired.  Luckily this one is "hot".  I did not put up enough Anti-Drone Rounds last summer.  Perhaps I shall have to revise my Five Year Plan™. 

I suspect no resupply is possible.  The Ichthyiod Resistance™ will continue the struggle! 

Forgoing salty vegetable snacks in the Current Truth™,

Red Salmon

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My wife found a recipe for anti-drone rounds and assembled five of them. We don't live in a high rise, so I will have to design and build a launcher to extend the effective range.

We did test one round. Pretty darn good!

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Salt pickled tomatoes are awesome!

Red Salmon

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Russia's definition of Nazism is simple: if you refuse to be denazified by Russia, you're a Nazi. And since the entire world is against this effort, the world is filled with Nazis. Most Russians believe when Putin tells them they're besieged by Russophobic Nazis led by the U.S.

The Russian media has published a program piece, "What is to be done to Ukraine."

One of our members has published sort of a response in the American Thinker -

What to Do with Russia


Mandatory reading.

mi
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Kapitan Kangaroo Kourt wrote:
4/7/2022, 12:21 am
The Ukrainians have managed to destroy a Russian transport ship at the Port of Berdyansk, sinking it right next to the dock.
Love is ... watching the burning Russian ship together.

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Most Equally Esteemed Komrads,

I am one confused fish in the collective.  I came across this today.

Ukraine’s Air Defenses Holding Strong 50 Days Into War as New Military Aid Announced

How do the air defenses of a much smaller country such as the Ukraine stand up to and survive against the vastly superior numbers of a country such as Russia?  Seriously.  Are the Russians unwilling to commit to this invasion?  I would have thought that the first order of business for an invading force would be to dominate the airspace above the contested ground.  That would entail destroying the enemy's ability to conduct air operations.  The Ukrainians are doing a bang up job inflicting damage on the invading force with SU-25 Frogfoots.  I remember being briefed on these aircraft in the mid-1980s. 

Did Russia believe the Ukraine would be a push over or do they not know how to conduct an invasion?  Day 50 and it is still a contest? 

Stunned and amazed in the Current Truth™,

Red Salmon

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Red Salmon wrote:
4/14/2022, 12:15 pm
Stunned and amazed in the Current Truth™
It just doesn't seem to click with this February 25 article:
https://www.flyingmag.com/invasion-reve ... -strategy/
 

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Red Salmon wrote:
4/14/2022, 12:15 pm

Stunned and amazed in the Current Truth™,

Red Salmon

It's difficult to find compliant slaves, these days.

mi
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Red Salmon wrote:
4/14/2022, 12:15 pm
Did Russia believe the Ukraine would be a push over ...?
It does appear, that Russian government believed their own propaganda -- that most Ukrainians are suffering under the yoke of the "nazis" and will be happy to see the brotherly liberators.

This was, indeed, the Russian TV's message since 2014 -- the only surprising part is that, evidently, Russian government believed it too. Probably, the Intelligence community were afraid to report anything other than, what the rulers wanted to hear.

A complementary explanation is that the vast sums of monies allocated on subverting Ukraine were, mostly, spent on dachas and fancy cars of the military and FSB top brass -- making them all the more afraid to report anything, but a dizzying success of their subversive efforts.

As to the fighting prowes of Ukraine's Armed Forces, Russian Intelligence aren't the only ones surprised. By all accounts, Western Intelligence agencies expected Ukraine's defenses to collapse within days too. Though in posession of some amazing equipment, which allows them to "see" and "hear" everything, these "analysts" remain very fallible humans, where it comes to analyzing the data made available by all the machinery -- and making predictions...


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mi wrote:
4/11/2022, 11:00 pm
Kapitan Kangaroo Kourt wrote:
4/7/2022, 12:21 am
The Ukrainians have managed to destroy a Russian transport ship at the Port of Berdyansk, sinking it right next to the dock.
Love is ... watching the burning Russian ship together.

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There's more.

https://edition.cnn.com/2022/04/14/euro ... index.html

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In 1905 Russia thought they’d make quick work of Japan too. We all know how that turned out.

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Red Square wrote:
4/14/2022, 9:38 pm
mi wrote:
4/11/2022, 11:00 pm
Kapitan Kangaroo Kourt wrote:
4/7/2022, 12:21 am
The Ukrainians have managed to destroy a Russian transport ship at the Port of Berdyansk, sinking it right next to the dock.
Love is ... watching the burning Russian ship together.

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There's more.

https://edition.cnn.com/2022/04/14/euro ... index.html

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The Moskva has been reclassified as a submarine and is now de-nazifying the fish in the Black Sea.

In addition to this, Turkey is refusing to allow Russian ships through The Bosporus, per the treaty agreements that disallows belligerents to traverse Turkish waters. Russia will not be allowed to bring replacement ships into the Black Sea. The loss of the Moskva is even more devastating because of this. Ukraine should make a point of sinking every Russian ship in the Black Sea fleet.


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There is now a video game called Ukrainian Farmy. Use your tractor to haul a Russian tank, armored vehicle, or a warship into your barn for spare pars and repurposing.

https://ukrainian.itch.io/ukrainian-farmy

It takes a village... and some farm equipment.

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I've seen a report that Romania, a NATO member, is looking to invade Transnistria, a province in the east of Moldova in which Russia/Putin instigated a separatist movement, with the Ukrainians allowing the Romanian military passage through Ukraine. Apparently, The Moldovans don't have much of a military and aren't able to reclaim their own territory without help. There are only 1500 Russian troops in Transnistria, according to the report I saw, so why that's difficult for the Moldovans to overcome doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me. I know it's a poor nation. I don't know much else about it.

The strategy here seems to be to free up Ukrainian troops to take care of the Russian invasion/occupation forces in southern Ukraine, along the Black Sea coast.

It would bring a NATO member into the war but would not trigger Article 5 (attack one, attack all), since NATO is a defensive pact. It's good news for Ukraine but it's an escalation of the war which is not good news for the rest of Europe.

Putin has also threaten reprisals on any nation, with "secret weapons", that continues to arm Ukraine. That includes the United States and my home country of Australia. We're in a world war. It just hasn't gotten globally ugly yet.

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Most Equally Esteemed Komrads,

PROG WAY OFF

It seems that the Romanian government perceives the Russians as weak enough for them to challenge.  Bold, to say the least!  The Ukrainian Meat Grinder™ is taking a huge toll on the Russian forces.  Likewise Russia's world image.  Will our current administration find a way to equally damage the USSA?  Or did they already do that with our collapse in Afghanistan? 

PROG BACK ON

Romania vs. Russia (USSR)!  I don't know whom to cheer for.  The Party™ will tell me how to think.

Awaiting direction in the Current Truth™,

Red Salmon 

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Red Salmon wrote:
4/28/2022, 11:53 pm
I don't know whom to cheer for.  The Party™ will tell me how to think. 

Comrade Red Salmon, The Party™ is totally in favor of whatever is totally in favor of The Party™. That's all you need to know.

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Fun fact: Kyiv in Ukrainian is spelled with the letter ï (i-umlaut).

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