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PROGOPOLY: The People's Board Game

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Colonel Obyezyana wrote:
8/20/2022, 11:30 am
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Most Equal work Comrade Colonel

I wish that I had these types of skills. Sadly, my skills are mostly in the use of sharp instruments, burying "things", compiling lists, forging documents and getting names onto voting rolls, but we do what we do in the name of The Party™. Am I right?

I remain
Dr. Chicago

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Dr. Chicago wrote:
8/20/2022, 12:13 pm
We do what we do in the name of The Party™. Am I right?

 Yesssssssss. The Paaaaartyyyyy...
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It's bliiiisssssssss.
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A couple of notes if I may,

1. I'd have thought that the train station loading platform would be "home" but I'm pleased to see Tractor Barn #2 getting honorable equal mention. Spasebo.

2. Severe shortage of "Go to Gulag" squares. Never enough of those.

3. Is "Collective Action" the same as a "Mostly Peaceful Protest" ? if so, a safety warning sticker may be needed for the boxtop.

4.  What denomination are you using for game currency?  the "M" doesn't match up with beets, vodka, sexual favors, or tractor repairs (although shovels of manure [since we can't get Chinese fertilizers anymore], redistributed Millions, or measured doses of COVID vaccine all could possibly fit)  Please clarify.

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Ivan the Stakhanovets wrote:
8/20/2022, 2:45 pm
A couple of notes if I may,

1. I'd have thought that the train station loading platform would be "home" but I'm pleased to see Tractor Barn #2 getting honorable equal mention. Spasebo.

2. Severe shortage of "Go to Gulag" squares. Never enough of those.

3. Is "Collective Action" the same as a "Mostly Peaceful Protest" ? if so, a safety warning sticker may be needed for the boxtop.

4.  What denomination are you using for game currency?  the "M" doesn't match up with beets, vodka, sexual favors, or tractor repairs (although shovels of manure [since we can't get Chinese fertilizers anymore], redistributed Millions, or measured doses of COVID vaccine all could possibly fit)  Please clarify.
1. Where else would you go after a long day of hard labor or come from after a short night of hard drinking?

2. One is enough given that the cards, too, can send you to gulag.

3. Collective Action is action by The Collective™ because communities no longer exist after being collectivized and all chests have been filled with the people's grain and requisitioned by The Party™.

4. The M is Monoply (or Moolah) and it is the temporary placeholder currency until I decide on a more suitable form or in case inflation causes it to become more valuable than the $. I won't use P (Progopoly) because it is the symbol of the worthless ruble. I'm leaning toward C as a generic currency, or L (Loot), or B as symbolic of any sort of Barter or Bribe.

Thank you for you invaluable input, Comrade!
 

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Currency in any form is a tool used to steal the labor value of workers. Everything in game must be distributed from each according to his ability to each according to his need. If you have ability to land on space and think you need it, this need must be determined either democratically by all players or by a committee formed by the players. If you land on a place already being used by another's need, and other players or a committee rule you owe state something you hold, player may decide to use black-market hard currency if that is agreeable with the state as decided by vote or committee.

Any player can call for a vote on anything during game. But if a committee has been formed for this purpose, committee can decide what needs to be done for the greater good of the game.

Players can and should join with other players of like mind to create committees by vote of all players. Committee hierarchy should be determined by general secretary.

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Submitted for consideration:

Proposed playing pieces, a beet, a vodka bottle, a shovel (limited edition versions might have a golden shovel of justice), a boxcar, a tractor, and of course a 3x3x3 cube...

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 Is my assumption that the Bourbon St. tile is a depiction of Hunter Biden someone paying a crack whore correct?  If not, I'll get my shovel.  I know the drill.  

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Comrade Otis wrote:
8/20/2022, 9:36 pm
Currency in any form is a tool used to steal the labor value of workers. Everything in game must be distributed from each according to his ability to each according to his need. If you have ability to land on space and think you need it this need must be determined either democratically by all players or by a committee formed by the players. If you land on a place already being used by another's need and other players or a committee rule you owe state something you hold. Player may decide to use blackmarket hard currency if that is agreeable with the state as decided by vote or committee.

Any player can call for a vote on anything during game. But if a committee has been formed this for this purpose committee can decide what needs to be done for the greater good of the game.

Players can and should join with other players of like mind to create committees by vote of all players. Committee hierarchy should be determined by general secretary.
Those are truly excellent rules, Comrade, but the game must be simple enough for children to play without being frustrated to the point of suicide. Thus, The Dice of Equity:
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As you can see, there is only one dot per die, so it is only possible to move forward one or two places at a time.

I see the game more as striving to survive despite the system rather than
strictly observing laws and customs. After all, how do you think a Progressive like Nancy Pelosi became a multimillionaire working for Congress? 
 

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Ivan the Stakhanovets wrote:
8/20/2022, 10:22 pm
Submitted for consideration:

Proposed playing pieces, a beet, a vodka bottle, a shovel (limited edition versions might have a golden shovel of justice), a boxcar, a tractor, and of course a 3x3x3 cube...
Now we're thinking! To those I would add a tractor and maybe an N95 mask or a butt plug. 
 

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Kim Jong Fun wrote:
8/21/2022, 1:44 am
 Is my assumption that the Bourbon St. tile is a depiction of Hunter Biden someone paying a crack whore correct?  If not, I'll get my shovel.  I know the drill.  
You assume correctly. Bourbon Street isn't famous for only its bars and puke-puddled sidewalks.
 

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 Somehow, some of these posts have been repeated several times. I've been deleting them.

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Ivan the Stakhanovets wrote:
8/20/2022, 10:22 pm
Submitted for consideration:

Proposed playing pieces, a beet, a vodka bottle, a shovel (limited edition versions might have a golden shovel of justice), a boxcar, a tractor, and of course a 3x3x3 cube...

Comrade

Boxcars are not the preferred mode of rail transportation in these instances. Progs always prefer cattle cars when removing the er, um, passengers to desired locations and, with the new "Climate" rules regarding emissions coming down the pike, cattle cars will be readily available and cheap. It's a win win.

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Dr. Chicago

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Colonel Obyezyana wrote:
8/21/2022, 6:59 am

I see the game more as striving to exploit and survive, despite the system, rather than strictly observing expected laws and customs. After all, how do you think a Progressive like Nancy Pelosi became a multimillionaire working for Congress? 


Sort of like the role playing game Paranoia but not.

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Margaret wrote:
8/21/2022, 10:19 am
Sort of like the role playing game Paranoia but not.
Not exactly because it's not an RPG, but there are similarities: the contemporary USSA is fast becoming a dystopian nightmare world run by a globalist machine.

And a few of the Current Truth cards will cause a player to be "shot" (ejected from the game) for a variety of contrived reasons. 

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Dr. Chicago wrote:
8/21/2022, 9:24 am
Boxcars are not the preferred mode of rail transportation in these instances. Progs always prefer cattle cars when removing the er, um, passengers to desired locations and, with the new "Climate" rules regarding emissions coming down the pike, cattle cars will be readily available and cheap. It's a win win.
That is a cattle car. Size limitations allow for little detail.

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I should mention these other pieces.

The traditional house and hotel remain, but now they are house (red) and dacha (green).
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And a new piece, abandoned gulag barracks, has been added. Perfect as a crackhouse or for warehousing illegal aliens.
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Colonel Obyezyana wrote:
8/21/2022, 11:20 am
Dr. Chicago wrote:
8/21/2022, 9:24 am
Boxcars are not the preferred mode of rail transportation in these instances. Progs always prefer cattle cars when removing the er, um, passengers to desired locations and, with the new "Climate" rules regarding emissions coming down the pike, cattle cars will be readily available and cheap. It's a win win.
That is a cattle car. Size limitations allow for little detail.

Comrade

I was responding to Comrade Ivan's comment, but I should have known that you would have the proper mode of transport on this life like "game".

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Dr. Chicago

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Dr. Chicago wrote:
8/21/2022, 12:02 pm
I was responding to Comrade Ivan's comment, but I should have known that you would have the proper mode of transport on this life like "game".
I see that now. Thank you.
 

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Ooh! Perhaps we could have "Governor Greg Abbott" busses that redistribute new voters comrades to Sanctuary cities?

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Ivan the Stakhanovets wrote:
8/21/2022, 7:43 pm
Ooh! Perhaps we could have "Governor Greg Abbott" busses that redistribute new voters comrades to Sanctuary cities?
Maybe it's a stretch but I think that's covered by the Toxic Waste railroad, or—soon—the AMTRAK railroad.
 

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I read in the Peoples News about Premier Cho Bai-Din's idea for AMTRACK.

Initial analysis: what could possibly go wrong? Costs 4x per person over bus charter (costs will be picked up by working taxpayers), stops every 30 to 45 miles, as fast as driving in a very old car... and its already run by the Federal Government! It's perfect! A well planned schedule in New England can have the same voters in four states and seven different metropolitan voting precincts on any given election day, and dining cars mean less time wasted at restaurants.

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Good reliable socialist transportation for working classes in Cuba:

Beep, beep! Join the future! Next stop: Next Tuesday, comrade!
Beep, beep! Join the future! Next stop: Next Tuesday, comrade!

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Speaking of tokens, here's one that seems to fit:
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I'd stick to the tractor or the vodka bottle. Pick that one up the wrong way and the lawsuits for "bad touch" will fly...

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Ivan the Stakhanovets wrote:
8/22/2022, 4:04 pm
I'd stick to the tractor or the vodka bottle. Pick that one up the wrong way and the lawsuits for "bad touch" will fly...
Alright, they're on the table.
Tractor
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Two types of vodka bottles: Purex and Clorox
And a few others...
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Capitalist pig
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Democrat
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Annoying Feminist



 

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Comrade Otis wrote:
8/21/2022, 11:07 pm
Good reliable socialist transportation for working classes in Cuba:

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The bullet-proof glass is a nice touch.
 

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Colonel Obyezyana wrote:
8/22/2022, 5:43 pm
Ivan the Stakhanovets wrote:
8/22/2022, 4:04 pm
I'd stick to the tractor or the vodka bottle. Pick that one up the wrong way and the lawsuits for "bad touch" will fly...
Alright, they're on the table.
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And a few others...
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Comrade Colonel

The annoying feminist appears to be, um.... Well, ur, lets just say underfed. I understand that keeping the packaging light is key, but everything else seems so realistic which makes the feminist playing token appear out of place. Also the word annoying seems to me to be rather redundant.

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Dr. Chicago

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Dr. Chicago wrote:
8/23/2022, 8:30 pm
The annoying feminist appears to be, um.... Well, ur, lets just say underfed. I understand that keeping the packaging light is key, but everything else seems so realistic which makes the feminist playing token appear out of place. Also the word annoying seems to me to be rather redundant.

 You're right. I'll have to replace it.


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Ivan the Stakhanovets wrote:
8/24/2022, 10:42 am
Redundancy again?
And as before, afresh, in a different way.
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(don't like it—not obnoxious enough)

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Colonel Obyezyana wrote:
8/24/2022, 1:21 pm
Ivan the Stakhanovets wrote:
8/24/2022, 10:42 am
Redundancy again?
And as before, afresh, in a different way.
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(don't like it—not obnoxious enough)

Comrade Colonel

That is perfect in every way. You have achieved a level of realism that I never thought could be achieved. Most equal work indeed and if I had some kind of award that I could bestow upon you, I would.

I remain
Dr. Chicago

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Dr. Chicago wrote:
8/24/2022, 4:53 pm
That is perfect in every way. You have achieved a level of realism that I never thought could be achieved. Most equal work indeed and if I had some kind of award that I could bestow upon you, I would.

Be that as it may, I must make an effort to avoid using humanoid human figures, so a feminist is she's out....unless it's this one:
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In keeping with the spirit of the original game, random, largely inanimate objects should be used. And before anyone suggests that such a class of tokens would therefore naturally include Joe Biden and John Fetterman, let me clarify that social parasites (cats, dogs, other pets or wild fauna or flora) are the only acceptable living things (Laika the Space Dog is not a living thing but may be included even though she lives only in our hearts). 

Charles Darrow's intent (in his 1935 version of the game) may have been to include highly distinctive tokens to identify players without imbuing any sort of power or personality to any player, thus making everyone easily identifiable, characterless ciphers equals for whom only the game—not any token— is relevant.

Still, I may bend the rules by including busts of Bernie Sanders or Kim Kardashian.

 

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Colonel Obyezyana wrote:
8/24/2022, 5:34 pm
... busts of Bernie Sanders or Kim Kardashian.
Image Kim's bust--sure, I'll play with that. 

(AHEM. as a gamepiece. in the game, of course [cough, wink wink, nudge, nudge])

Bernie, no. No thanks.  Just no.
 

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Ivan the Stakhanovets wrote:
8/24/2022, 6:15 pm
Kim's bust--sure, I'll play with that. (AHEM. as a gamepiece. in the game, of course [cough, wink wink, nudge, nudge])
I KNEW someone would bite take the bait like that idea.
 

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The tokens could be just little People’s Cubes. All the same color: red. Game could include some that aren’t red but they are for deviationists,Trotskyites and kulaks and aren’t chosen by the player but are one part of a punishment.

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Margaret wrote:
8/24/2022, 7:44 pm
The tokens could be just little People’s Cubes. All the same color: red. Game could include some that aren’t red but they are for deviationists,Trotskyites and kulaks and aren’t chosen by the player but are one part of a punishment.
I appreciate your imaginative suggestions, Comrade, and I might implement them if not for reasons described above and some others:

1. After a few gulps of beet vodka from a jug or bottle (or a grimy old hubcap), players would be unable to tell who's cube is whom's  and might not be able to distinguish cubic tokens from The Dice of Equity™.

2. Tokens are traditionally unaffected by rules of the game, receiving neither favor or penalty—they are merely markers.

3. Metal (or wood, or ivory, or concrete, etc.) tokens are more appealing to children as they're being indoctrinated playing the game, and easier for drunken comrades to grasp after all their fingers turn to thumbs.

4. Traditional token design possibilities are endless and a chance to exploit them is irresistible. Just look at what happened in the Monopoly world a few years ago:

https://www.businessinsider.com/monopol ... ons-2017-1
 

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Colonel Obyezyana wrote:
8/22/2022, 1:59 pm
Speaking of tokens, here's one that seems to fit:Image

Colonel Obyezyana wrote:
8/25/2022, 4:50 am
Margaret wrote:
8/24/2022, 7:44 pm
The tokens could be just little People’s Cubes. All the same color: red. Game could include some that aren’t red but they are for deviationists,Trotskyites and kulaks and aren’t chosen by the player but are one part of a punishment.
I appreciate your imaginative suggestions, Comrade, and I might implement them if not for reasons described above and some others:

1. After a few gulps of beet vodka from a jug or bottle (or a grimy old hubcap), players would be unable to tell who's cube is whom's and might not be able to distinguish cubic tokens from The Dice of Equity™.

2. Tokens are traditionally unaffected by rules of the game, receiving neither favor or penalty—they are merely markers.

3. Metal (or wood, or ivory, or concrete, etc.) tokens are more appealing to children as they're being indoctrinated playing the game, and easier for drunken comrades to grasp after all their fingers turn to thumbs.

4. Traditional token design possibilities are endless and a chance to exploit them is irresistible. Just look at what happened in the Monopoly world a few years ago:

https://www.businessinsider.com/monopol ... ons-2017-1
Ivan the Stakhanovets wrote:
8/22/2022, 4:04 pm
I'd stick to the tractor or the vodka bottle. Pick that one up the wrong way and the lawsuits for "bad touch" will fly...

Just when 'pelipsky thought of escaping Progopoly®, it takes a Gorilla and a Tractor Barn #2 Party Man to drag 'pelipsky into your twisted game!

A TOKEN!

Also, wouldn't a Progopoly Game Session be akin to a River Cruise Ship through Progopoly game session, since every roll of the Dice of Equity would fix same destination for all tokens ??? during Participating Players' Progopoly game session? Same participating players experience same progopoly tour stops. Assuming, a Progopoly participating player's token doesn't go "missing", "detained", "we're working with authorities to let them know, one of their tokens has disappeared", will there be calls to investigate the session's participating players for token justice???

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jackalopelipsky wrote:
8/25/2022, 3:28 pm
Also, wouldn't a Progopoly Game Session be akin to a River Cruise Ship through Progopoly game session, since every roll of the Dice of Equity would fix same destination for all tokens ??? during Participating Players' Progopoly game session? Same participating players experience same progopoly tour stops. Assuming, a Progopoly participating player's token doesn't go "missing", "detained", "we're working with authorities to let them know, one of their tokens has disappeared", will there be calls to investigate the session's participating players for token justice???
No. Each roll upon an individual player's turn is a movement of either one or two or no spaces, not a collective move by all players.

I have toyed with the idea of no dots on a roll being two backward movements but retrogressive is the antithesis of progressive, so we can't slow the game down with such hooliganism.

No tokens can go missing because they are only a player's place marker, but players can be detained/imprisoned in the gulag for fixed periods depending on what the cards demand.
 

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Game box says tokens included but no tokens in box. Players must use what’s at hand. The tokens were all sold by one of the token factory collective on blackmarket. Maybe workers include some bottle caps or some cut-up vodka bottle stopper cork if something like that around.

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Comrade Otis wrote:
8/25/2022, 6:58 pm
Game box says tokens included but no tokens in box. Players must use what’s at hand. The tokens were all sold by one of the token factory collective on blackmarket. Maybe workers include some bottle caps or some cut-up vodka bottle stopper cork if something like that around.
The Darrow game was Depression Era. A lot of people din't have much money or anything else, so the idea that any old small object could be a token made thing easier for those with home-made games.
 

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When I first dreamed up the Progopoly concept, it occurred to me that some other comrade may have already taken a stab at it. To search for it was too boring daunting a task, so I forged ahead.

Well, someone DID take a stab at it 13 years ago in 2009 with the game he called Bureaucracy. Panem Et Circenses game may be seen here:
https://thepeoplescube.com/post78776.html#p78776


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genipero wrote:
11/15/2022, 5:24 pm
Is this available yet ?

I think it comes out next Tuesday.
 

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Margaret wrote:
11/15/2022, 6:29 pm
genipero wrote:
11/15/2022, 5:24 pm
Is this available yet ?

I think it comes out next Tuesday.
 
Thank you Margaret. Will keep an eye out.

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Colonel Obyezyana wrote:
8/30/2022, 1:12 pm
When I first dreamed up the Progopoly concept, it occurred to me that some other comrade may have already taken a stab at it. To search for it was too boring daunting a task, so I forged ahead.

Well, someone DID take a stab at it 13 years ago in 2009 with the game he called Bureaucracy. Panem Et Circenses game may be seen here:
https://thepeoplescube.com/post78776.html#p78776
Mine was a pale pre-imitation, my friend.
 

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I published my sneak preview as a teaser, hoping to have the project completed before
Christmas
NewYear's Day
GWONT.

But due to
lack of interest 
supply chain shortages
copyright infringements
an inflamed guernica
other obligations,
it appears that GWONT is the best plausible possible release date for a prototype version, with the fully equipped, boxed version to come no later than the last Tuesday of the first summer after GWONT.

Thanks to all comrades for your continued interest in this gag game.

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Well, these are All great ideas from the Colonel and Panem and Circences but what the hey is GWONT ? Acronyms , gah!


 
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