Kim Jong-Un wrote:
I perfectly tolerate opposing viewpoints, but not hypocrisy. Haven't you condescended to some of my peers with your "I've seen this tactic before" and "You're just steering the argument" rants. It seems to me that you play the role of debate moderator to your own pathetic ends.
No, actually I have seen those tactics. All the time. Go back and look. You will see my original post was my first impression of comparing health care with massacres. When I recieved insults or attacks to the people I stated again that I have seen that tactic before as well. When the issue of Pelosi having a jet was mentioned (I assume to illustrate how hypocritical she was to lecture about global warming) I asked if there was opposition to her having a jet or the office she holds having a jet. No answers. That shows a tactic is being used- no desire to have an honest debate, just to degrade the opposition. I have no interest in that. When I see it I will say it.
"Condescended"? How? Was it by writing what I think? Or by pointing out when they avoided points or dropped something when I answered in a way they weren't expecting? Or was it simply because you imagine Kieth Olberman's voice when reading my comments?
Some of your peers wrote stuff that could qualify as far more condescending than anything I wrote. Did you notice that or is it only obvious when you disagree? I never mind it. I only point out when blog tactics to avoid a real debate are used.
Some looked to engage in an intelligent debate. I answered them, no mention of tactics. Some were playing characters and were funny, no mention of tactics.
And what are my "pathetic ends" (note the personal attack- it's a tactic)? Health care? American obligation to treaties to fight the cold war? To protect nations that have clearly shown to be quite ungrateful for American protection?
Kim Jong-Un wrote:
And speaking of UN resolutions... In 1948, the UN held a vote on a partition plan that would divide Palestine into two virtually equal parts, one Jewish and one Arab. The big, bad Jews, with their big, bad bulldozers and their big, bad Holohoax scheme, actually were gracious enough to accept this plan. How about the poor, oppressed Palestinean people, who only want a wee little home for themselves? Not only have they rejected this plan, they actually called upon other Arab nations to rise up and extinguish the Jewish race once and for all.
Both England and France had stakes in it. It was the spoils of the Ottoman Empire. They couldn't hold it with the ease to make it worth their efforts. The Europeans didn't want the Jews so they gave it to them. The Jews hold it, the Europeans controlled them and soon after America inherited their dealings. Europeans knew it could be overrun. That was the point. They didn't want the Jews back.
Kim Jong-Un wrote:
The leader who instigate it all was none other than His Holiness, Mohammad Amin al-Husayni, the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem. He's the Arab equivalent of Mohandas Gandhi, but instead of the traditional Hindu non-violence, al-Husayni has his usual rabid, Muslim anti-Semitism and goals to exterminate the Zionist settlers from their new homesteads. He even allied with a certain German socialist leader during the Second World War, working as a chaplain for the Muslim Handschar division of the SS. Is this the diversity you wished for?
Do you think that Europe was unaware of that? Or that they cared?
Kim Jong-Un wrote:
Whatever "crimes" Israel may be responsible for, they paled in the sheer magnitude of depravity and barbarism committed by Palestinean terrorists throughout the decades. From senselessly murdering Israeli athletes who have done nothing to deserve their horrible deaths, to lobbing thousands of rockets on Israeli civilians as up-yours statements against innumerable ceasefire agreements, Hamas and its predecessors are the true aggressors of this conflict, with Israel stuck between a rock and a hard, stinky turd.
So a cynical person would say that it follows what some Europeans had hoped for and that the US would be the one to deal with it.
Zionists knew how this was going to be with the Palestinians. They signed up for it.
And Palestinians are dirt poor. They can't afford rockets. Nations around send in teams to do this and they know what will happen. Don't think the Palestinians are doing it alone.
Kim Jong-Un wrote:
Yet you have the galls to side with such thugs? A progressive dedicated to spreading tolerance and egalitarianism throughout the world, yet lending support to the most insensitive, barbaric ideology in the modern world? Can you truly stand this debased logic here?
Silly me, I thought I was more concerned about the Muslims viewing any attack upon Mecca and Medina as automatic war with all Muslims (not just the radicals) and with Pakistan being a nuclear power...
Think Israel would hesitate to take out the holiest sites in Islam if they feel that their holiest site is going down? Think Pakistan or whatever new Islamic nuclear power that emerges next won't hold the US responsible?
Kim Jong-Un wrote:
My apologies. I was assuming that as a decent human being, you would be able to see through leftist doublethink and actually make an independent stand based on your own observations of the world. Well, that was a haste, wasn't it?
Leftist doublethink?
How's this- Would you be willing to simply have it out to the death with the Muslim world? Nuclear war here. If you are willing to because you believe that much in your principles regarding this subject then I don't begrudge you for it.
The Muslims will NEVER give up. The rest of the world (for the most part) will NEVER like Jews. Certainly not enough to risk anything of their own. That's not political opinion, that's how it is.
The Europeans are cowering to Islam. China and Russia are arming them.
Jewish Zionists believe deeply in their faith or else they wouldn't go through this. That's why they risk it. Do you believe as deeply in your convictions? Maybe you do and that is admirable. Does enough of America though?
Apocalyptic war involving people that "know" they will upgrade their existence once dead is something you either settle quickly or steer clear of. You don't keep sitting on the fence.
1948? 62 years ago. That's a long time to put off a decision. The Palestinians and the Muslim world have made their decision. The poor have one thing that unites them and offers them a "dignified" way out, respect for their family, money for their family, and an instant upgrade of their existence (in their minds). What is everyone waiting for? For them to have ICBMs? For everyone to kiss and make up? For one to accept defeat and drop their grudge?
Defending them? Not exactly. Just not too clear on the "wait and see and further enrage" approach. I don't see that being good for the Kollective (that last part was a tactic).