Laika the Space Dog wrote:

Why isn't there a huge liberal whine in the Lone Star to close the TYC and free the children? After all, they're only children and it's all about "FOR THE CHILDREN"?
After researching the articles about the TYC, I've come to the conclusion that the TYC is a thousand times worse than Gitmo and on a much larger scale.

I'm demanding that the TYC be closed IN THE NAME OF THE CHILDREN!
Shut it down.
Fire Blue Bell, the torturer.
Everybody who works for the TYC is guilty by association!
Baby Rapers!

Let's get Dick Durbin-Laden down to the Lone Star and accuse Blue Bell and the rest of the TYC of being Nazis.

Gee… What a display of Ignorance !!

Do you honestly mean you are taking the side of the young social misfits incarcerated within the walls of the Texas Youth Commission facilities? Surprising… and I doubt your mock sincerity. I would have thought TPC would consider TYC a Socialistic Program for the Wee-est of the lower class. In many ways that's what TYC is… a social program primarily for young lower class offenders… designed, not to punish, but to train, educate, and head them in the right direction in society. Does the program work? Except for a few cases, I don't think so. By the time they are committed to TYC, the learned attitudes and behaviors of these young offenders are already engrained in their psyches. And when they are released from TYC, they are returned to the same environment that was the root of the problem to begin with.

I was appalled and angered by recent fracas re: mismanagement and criminal activities of administrators (Texas Good Old Boys) and employees of the Texas Youth Commission. Yet, the report did not surprise me, as the Texas justice system leaves a lot to be desired in the punishment and rehabilitation of Texas lawbreakers, be they juveniles or adults. Texas Governor George W. Bush sat in on 150 executions of inmates on death row, the highest record in U.S. history. That's Entertainment !! Perhaps some of the Cubers might like free tickets to one of the shows.

Most of the executed suffered from mental retardation, psychological disorders, drug abuse, being Black or Hispanic and not understanding the language of our laws and what is happening to them, and/or lacking the funds for honest and intelligent attorneys to represent them. Do any of you have the vision to see what's wrong with the overall picture?

***In a visit to the Gainesville TYC campus (when I worked there), the then Director of TYC Institutions made the statement: “There are more juveniles incarcerated in Texas prison facilities than in the entire country of Russia.” That figure was calculated before Russia was geographically chopped up. I doubt if the figures have changed much, except for increases in numbers. Now that's a problem… a Great, Big Problem. They grow up to be adult offenders. (See articles below.)

I worked at the TYC Gainesville State School for 13 years… as secretary/assistant to the institutional parole/alternate placement officer. When they had served their time, we got them out of there, sending them back home or to alternate placements… special facilities to suit their needs, i.e. treatment centers for psychological disorders and drug rehab, halfway houses, and educational/work related facilities, etc. I later worked as assistant to the psychiatrist. Three semesters of psychology proved to be beneficial. I also served as volunteer Co-Editor of the GSS Newsletter, GSS reporter to the statewide TYC News Letter, and GSS reporter to the local newspaper.

My work required reading each student's history and psychological evaluations. IQ evaluations revealed that many scored from low to high mental retardation. Some came in with old and fresh scars of cigarette burns all over their bodies. Their psych evals were often nightmares, with classic symptoms of severe psychological disorders, i.e. bi-polar disorders. Symptoms and past behaviors included arson, hearing voices, hallucinations, cruelty to animals and humans, self-mutilation, etc. One particular kid got his kicks by bounding the bodies of small live dogs and cats and burying them in the ground with their heads out. Then he would run over their heads with a lawn mower until they were dead and their heads mutilated.

While they were at GSS, many students continued their self-destructive behaviors by cutting on themselves (wrists and arms), swallowing batteries, and continued suicide attempts. Though some made sincere efforts to improve themselves and their lot in life.

I sometimes heard reports of hanky panky between students, but if there was any molestation of students by GSS employees, I was not aware of it. I suspect that there could have been some mismanagement of funds, even then, especially in that the upper echelon of TYC was composed of a large number of the Texas Good Old Boys. But I had no specific knowledge of it.

For the most part, GSS was a good facility for the rehabilitation and education of NVO youth. They enjoyed many privileges on campus and extra benefits of the Gainesville community efforts, including off-campus visits, jobs, college courses, and various kinds of acceptable entertainment… to the extent that many of the kids thought of GSS as the only home they had ever known. Yes, it had a home-like, family atmosphere, and some even called me “Mom.” (No... Don't make fun of that !!) I never took that compliment lightly, and often wondered what kind of adults they grew up to be. A few came back to visit in Social Services, and some even committed petty crimes after being released, in order to be sent back to GSS. They had become institutionalized, and couldn't make it out there in the real world… Victims of the TYC system.

The atmosphere of GSS changed after it became a Violent Offender facility with a fence was built around it. These kids were older, severely psychologically disturbed, and more sinister in their demeanor and behaviors. The majority were Repeat Offenders, and were becoming hardened criminals and a threat to society. A rather freaky one once cornered me in my isolated office in the infirmary… Scared the HELL out of me. But he backed off.

I did not enjoy as well working under the conditions and changes made by the Violent Offender program. It was depressing. I couldn't handle it, and had to get out of there. Though over all, working at TYC-GSS was an interesting and rewarding experience. I have many fond memories of some of those kids.

I took an early retirement in 1993, and enjoyed less stressful work in a florist/gift shop, and joined an art group and the local community theater (and still frequent other places where I can sing). I'm Moderator of a Yahoo group (4 years), which occupies quite a bit of my time. Some of the members affectionately call me “Grandma.” Otherwise, I spend my time with my family and 3 young grand kids. Oh, yes… I also enjoy writing… about sense and nonsense. I've recently been writing of my experiences as a child growing up in the Great Depression and how I overcame the challenges.

Some articles:

Texas Tough (prison policies)
https://www.prisonpolicy.org/scans/texas.pdf

Crime and Punishment in America
https://www.nytimes.com/books/first/c/currie-crime.html

Gainesville State School (as it is now… much different than when I worked there)
https://www.tyc.state.tx.us/programs/ga ... index.html

Recent TYC News Headlines
https://www.kwtx.com/news/headlines/6836167.html

I did not enjoy as well working under the conditions and changes made by the Violent Offender program. It was depressing.

As to quote a popular and evil kkkapitalist Microsoft Ad Center TV commercial "They have pills for that now. You'll Manage."

Blue Bell wrote:
That's Entertainment !! Perhaps some of the Cubers might like free tickets to one of the shows.

You bet!! I didn't know that one could get tickets, I always thought it was a selected group of people that got to watch those. Sign me up! I'm always up for watching some permanent threat to society become a non-threat.

Blue Bell wrote: Most of the executed suffered from mental retardation, psychological disorders, drug abuse, being Black or Hispanic and not understanding the language of our laws and what is happening to them, and/or lacking the funds for honest and intelligent attorneys to represent them. Do any of you have the vision to see what's wrong with the overall picture?

Yes! I have the vision!! You are exactly right! Those persons are not guilty of crimes! They just have alternative lifestyles and should be exalted for their courage, not incarcerated! How could someone who has mental problems, or on drugs, or black or hispanic be able to commit crimes? They should not have even been arrested!! The gall of George W. Bush!! Damn him! Your day will come Bushitler! Your day will come!

Blue Bell wrote: They had become institutionalized, and couldn't make it out there in the real world… Victims of the TYC system.

My point exactly!! They should have never been incarcerated in the first place! As you pointed out when you incarcerate someone they simply become institutionalized and will most likely end up back in the system. In order to avoid this problem, we simply will not incarcerate them in the first place. After all who are we to judge them?

O'Brien

WAR IS PEACE
FREEDOM IS SLAVERY
IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH

BB foolishly claims:

Most of the executed suffered from mental retardation, psychological disorders, drug abuse, being Black or Hispanic and not understanding the language of our laws and what is happening to them, and/or lacking the funds for honest and intelligent attorneys to represent them. Do any of you have the vision to see what's wrong with the overall picture?

That's a load of pure liberal bullshit...you believe every sheister lawyer able to attract a mic? Every freaking one of those bastards was convicted of a heinous crime; they ALWAYS claim to be "retarded, abused, blah blah blah".

You'd think they were convicted of jaywalking!

You're just gullible .

BTW you should move back to SoCal, where Richard Ramirez still enjoys 3 squares, psych eval, marriage, and generally BREATHING after all these years (gee, has it REALLY been 22 years since they bagged that asshole?)...ever hear about The Night Stalker??? I lived in SoCal at the time...that is one f*cker who "needs killin'" (a phrase I'm sure you are plenty familiar with)

Texas and Florida do it right...the punishment on the books is the one y'all get after your appeal ( and quick!), unlike in Cali where it drags on for years, and years, and YEARS before the victim's families finally get closure. Where's your fabled compassion for those proles?

Another BB gem:

One particular kid got his kicks by bounding the bodies of small live dogs and cats and burying them in the ground with their heads out. Then he would run over their heads with a lawn mower until they were dead and their heads mutilated.

I hope they put him out of his misery, because THAT is a miserable excuse for a "human being".

Yes, I'd spend top dollah to see him get the needle, which sounds WAAY too good for him.

I suppose brother Dahmer was just misunderstood? POOR BABY!!!!!

Bvt. Field Marshal Pravda wrote:Another BB gem:

One particular kid got his kicks by bounding the bodies of small live dogs and cats and burying them in the ground with their heads out. Then he would run over their heads with a lawn mower until they were dead and their heads mutilated.

I hope they put him out of his misery, because THAT is a miserable excuse for a "human being".

Yes, I'd spend top dollah to see him get the needle, which sounds WAAY too good for him.

I suppose brother Dahmer was just misunderstood? POOR BABY!!!!!

I'm sure it wasn't his fault... I'm sure it was the fetal bovine growth hormone syndrome that made him do it... it's as clear as an unmuddied lake, Pravda. As clear as an azure sky of deepest summer... But initiative comes to thems that wait...

Female Psychiatrist: I'm going to show you a picture, and you tell me what that person might say.

Alex: Oh

Female Psychiatrist: Let's Begin
[Changes to a slide with two people looking at a peacock]
Female Psychiatrist: "Isn't the plumage beautiful?"

Alex: I'm supposed to say what the other person would say?

Female Psychiatrist: Yes, just tell me the first thing that comes to your mind.

Alex: Cabbages, knickers, It hasn't got A BEAK!

Female Psychiatrist: Good.
[Changes slides to a man climbing into a naked woman's bedroom]
Female Psychiatrist: "What do you want?"

Alex: No time for the ol' in-out, love. I've just come to read the meter!

Female Psychiatrist: Alright.

Alex: [Laughs]

Female Psychiatrist: [Changes slide to woman handing bird eggs to a man] "You can do whatever you like with these.

Alex: Eggiweggs. I would like... to smash them. And pick them up, and THROW-
[moves injured arm]
Alex: OW! Fucking hell! So did I pass?
<br>ta da!!!!

oooh... that was fun!...
SMO
(with sincere apologies to Stanley... )...

way to go, sis!!

A bit of the old ultraviolence, eh! Let the krovey flow!! (Oh, and the welfare checks...DON'T FORGET MA' MONEY!!!).

Gotta love Kubrick...PERFECT adaptation of Anthony Burgess' classic...heh...the milk bar scene was too much

I haven't seen A Clockwork Orange yet nor have I read the book. I will be sure to scout the library at school for the book this week and make some time to read it.

Meow... it is one of the few books I would suggest seeing the film of first - some may argue with me. Burgess' writing is brilliant (ABBA is one of my all time favorites), but the glommed together English and Russian can get in the way of suspension of disbelief when reading the book. I did read the book first, as there was no way to see the film for a very long time when I was younger, and the images in the film are so overwhelming that even if you were to read the book first, it is almost impossible not to default to Kubrick's images from the film... which is why you might as well just watch it first, cause it's not like it's going to ruin the book by destroying some mental image you develop... if that makes sense... It is a quick read... but the movie's shorter...

Bvt. Field Marshal Pravda wrote:way to go, sis!!

A bit of the old ultraviolence, eh! Let the krovey flow!! (Oh, and the welfare checks...DON'T FORGET MA' MONEY!!!).

Gotta love Kubrick...PERFECT adaptation of Anthony Burgess' classic...heh...the milk bar scene was too much

Yeah... but didja like Full Metal Jacket?

Sister Massively Opiated wrote:

Bvt. Field Marshal Pravda wrote:way to go, sis!!

A bit of the old ultraviolence, eh! Let the krovey flow!! (Oh, and the welfare checks...DON'T FORGET MA' MONEY!!!).

Gotta love Kubrick...PERFECT adaptation of Anthony Burgess' classic...heh...the milk bar scene was too much

Yeah... but didja like Full Metal Jacket?

o hell yes....everything Kubrick did is pure genius..I adore his use of vertical lines throughout all his movies.

ah... so you appreciated The Shining then? I hope you watched it at the correct aspect ratio so that it wasn't all cut off and buggered up... I don't care what Stephen King thinks - as a film, it was brilliant... visually and otherwise... no one can snort and cry like Shelley Duvall trying to swing a bat at Jack Nicholson...

"Darling! Light of my life! I'm not gonna hurt you. You didn't let me finish my sentence. I said, I'm not gonna hurt ya. I'm just gonna bash your brains in. I'm gonna bash 'em right the f**k in!"

Man... I gotta watch that again soon... it's been way too long... though in fairness, it should be done in February when one is snowed in... Patagonia it is!

I saw The Shining when I was a Wee Person and am still horrified when watching it to this day. Something about those twins, a huge hotel, some old troll soaking in the tub and the kid muttering "red rum" still gives me the chills. Ugh... now I won't be able sleep thinking about it.

Blue Bell, the friendly troll wrote

Gee… What a display of Ignorance !!

Mine or yours? I was trying to make a sarcastic point. This is a satire site, after all.
Your lecture was fraught with pitfalls and I don't need a lecture on mental heath issues. My mom was a Psych RN at Mayview here in Western Pennsylvania.
She was beaten, stabbed, and had bones crushed by inmates...er..I mean "patients".
She was Nurse Wratchet and she was dedicated. After each injury, she healed and returned to work only to suffer more abuse at the hand of her patients and by the pen of administrators and so-called psychiatrists who were more interested in their social and drug experiments than protecting the staff, the public, and the patients.
The pen hurt the most.

Oh....the patients have rights you know! Like sex with other patients! We can't deny that! Sex anytime, anywhere with another patient as long as it wasn't by force. Nice....and what about the offspring, Blue Bell?

How about this? A mass murderer who was White and killed Asians and Blacks together with a Black who was a mass murderer who killed only Whites were allowed to have "recreation" time together on the basketball court unbeknownst to each other for "observation" by an idiot doctor who was working on his "paper".
I begged my mom to report it to the media.
She was afraid of being fired.
How do you think the orderlies and my mom who were thrust into the middle of that Bedlam situation felt? I'm quite sure you're aware of the term "Bedlam" and Bethleham Hospital. It was a very nervous Bedlam those times that this was permitted until the patients "achieved the proper psychotropic dosage."
Nice....expalin the compassion in that Blue Bell.

Yes, rights indeed! Voter rights! A "rehabilitated" patient who was released and came back to work at the facility became head of the local NAACP chapter (thankfully he's not the head anymore) decided to get the help of the Teamsters to bring school buses to Mayview on election day 2000, loaded up the buses with non-violent patients, each with "Albert Gore, Jr." written on the palms of their hands and off they went to vote.
While chaos ensued at the South Fayette polling places with the poll workers arguing that the patients weren't registered and the NAACP kook yelling that the patients were being "disenfranchised" two of the patients took off in one of the buses, leading the police on a merry chase for two hours.
Blue Bell, certainly you don't approve do you?

I could go on and on....etc.
We put down rabid dogs and raccoons and call it humane because they're dangerous animals and they're suffering

Most of the executed suffered from mental retardation, psychological disorders, drug abuse, being Black or Hispanic and not understanding the language of our laws and what is happening to them, and/or lacking the funds for honest and intelligent attorneys to represent them. Do any of you have the vision to see what's wrong with the overall picture?

Anything but violent and a danger to the public and themselves.

I like you Blue Bell, at least you have a story to tell and you try to use logic, but I am hardly ignorant. Should we let all the Gitmo detainees loose in your town?

Laika

Dear Comrade Laika (and others who responded to my post re: the TYC),

Thanks for your interest, and please excuse my delay in replying. I have to say something....

First you call me a Nazi Torturer of Children of the TYC (satire?). Then you turn around and yell that I'm too soft, too gullible, and too sympathetic to low life criminals !! (satire?)

Don't yell so loud !! It hurts my ears. I didn't create the problem !! What I tried to do in my post was fill you in, and perhaps make some of you more aware of the TYC facilities, and of the many young offenders that are caught up in the TYC system... the good, the bad, and the ugly.

Yeah, the one about kid mowing over the dog's and cat's heads still haunts me and gives me nightmares. I don't think I will ever forget it. In my work at GSS, I experienced many emotions... from sympathy to fear and repulsion. Many of their behaviors are DRUG RELATED. Their brains FRIED.

I asked the question... "Do any of you have the vision to see what's wrong with the overall picture?" But no one answered it. The young repeat offenders hang around in the youth prison system, then graduate to the adult prison system. But THEIR NUMBERS ARE GROWING. So is the drug culture. This is much of the problem. What can we do about it?

Laika wrote: "We put down rabid dogs and raccoons and call it humane because they're dangerous animals and they're suffering."

Are you sure this is what you want? Dogs and raccoons are not human.

This is Satire: I see a futuristic movie... or maybe it was in the past. One in which there is no longer any justice system for the People. "They"... the "State" can execute whomever, whenever, and for whatever reason "They" wish, with no client privilege of attorney. The Masses/Offenders of the State are herded en masse into large,
underground cement rooms... I believe they are referred to as Gas Chambers.

Btw, thanks for the "Blue Bell the Friendly Troll" title... HAHAHA... I like it. It 'hums' like "Casper the Friendly Ghost."

Well it is kind of strange that libs flock to protest the treatment of detainees at Gitmo and do not protest the shutting down of TYC (which according to Laika and based on your experiences has horrible conditions for inmates... much worst than the conditions an enemy combatant and terrorist has to deal with). So yes, it was humor and we know that you are not a Nazi... much like we would want you to know that we are not "blood thirsty" and that the Iraq War is not a war for "blood and oil".

People in our wonderful country do have due process and are given a lawyer. And in some cases having the best lawyer money can buy won't necessarily win the jury in your favor (Scott Peterson being one them... who should fry like an egg on a hot summer sidewalk after what he did to his wife and unborn child) So no, I don't see what is wrong with the overall picture in our justice system. The culture is a problem... not just the "drug culture" but the overall culture in our country to begin with. And this, my dearest Blue Bell, is why I'm a conservative first and foremost (a very young one at that). Because I too see a problem in my generation... a problem that embraces instant gratification, the lyrics of a rap artist glorifying gang banging, cop killing, bitches-n-hos, smoking up and snorting ect. ect. ect. And what you can do about it is to stop casting your ballot for whatever Democrat is running in your town... because, sadly to say, they're all in on it. This culture means more votes for them in the near future. More people poor, uneducated, killing each other and living from pay-check to pay-check gives them more power (and they say they do it for the People... bahahaha!)... oh, and welfare programs?? Ha! Something they cooked up years ago and twisted around to keep black folks and other minorities trapped in the inner-city and dependent on their "leadership" to provide them with government assistance (a former Congressman... a Democrat... told my father this years ago. He said it keeps "them" out of his multi-million dollar neighborhood so that he won't have to invest in a better security system. Yes, the very group of people who rail against racism is the very same group of people who keep it alive and well to make $$$... just look at Sharpton and Jackson who are rolling in the dough and stoking the flames). It's a vicious cycle and it won't stop till people are empowered, off the hand outs and put back to work contributing to society and all of that starts with strong families. And you certainly won't be motivated to contribute to society when you get free food, free money and free healthcare from the State... and sadly it won't end till people wake up and realize that is what the left is trying to do. If you want a good example all you would have to do is drive through WV and see how "the Party" operates there. Everyone is poor, hopeless, mostly uneducated and STILL voting Democrat statewide. Hell, Bobby Byrd has been a Senator there since my mother was born.... once again... it's good'ole boy and they would do that to the entire South if they could get away with it.

And hopefully someday the Republicans will grow some big balls and call the Dems for what they are... until then I sit here and wait.

Meow the Dachshund-napper wrote

It's a vicious cycle and it won't stop till people are empowered, off the hand outs and put back to work contributing to society and all of that starts with strong families. And you certainly won't be motivated to contribute to society when you get free food, free money and free healthcare from the State... and sadly it won't end till people wake up and realize that is what the left is trying to do

I've been saying this a while now...school vouchers and alternative education must be allowed to compete with "Big Schooling"....until that happens, we're sunk. Educators continue to brainwash our children to their own political persuasion, which is WRONG!!!

SMO observes:

I don't care what Stephen King thinks - as a film, it was brilliant...

Ummm....who the hell is Stephen King to criticize one of the most accomplished directors of all time? By "one of the most accomplished" I mean...who's better??

Blue Bell wrote: I asked the question... "Do any of you have the vision to see what's wrong with the overall picture?" But no one answered it. The young repeat offenders hang around in the youth prison system, then graduate to the adult prison system. But THEIR NUMBERS ARE GROWING. So is the drug culture. This is much of the problem. What can we do about it?

Well I shall answer your question honestly this time, no joking around or satire seeping from my pores.

The problem is 'society' and I put society in ' ' because I do not believe that society in the traditional sense is the problem. 'Society' is those self proclaimed 'caring' individuals who tell everyone what society is. For instance as Chairman Meow pointed out, the Urban culture of gang banging, cop killing, drug running...thats all fine and cool and that is 'society' as proclaimed by those ass hats who run around and scream racism whenever anyone says that that stuff is garbage.

So you have that as a background and as something that is glorified and pushed onto todays youth by MTV as something that only cool people do. Gangstas? They are cool, you want to be cool be like them. Want to be popular? Thug life baby.

Now take a high school environment in which the prevailing attitude of all teenagers is to be popular and liked, and tell them the way to be that way is through gang banging, drugs, etc etc., what do you think that they are going to do to be popular and cool?

Now that takes us to kids that get sent to institutions such as the one you worked in Blue Bell, the kids that have their brains fried on drugs, kids think that the way to be cool and get respect is through killing. Yes it is tragic, but what do you do you ask? You remove the hardened criminal element from society permanently. Incarceration is not sufficient as there is always a possibility of escape. I always get a chuckle from those that lament that we need to coddle kiddie criminals that for some reason a bullet from a fifteen year old somehow kills less than a bullet from a 25 year old. If someones brain is fried on drugs causing them to be perpetually violent how does it make sense to let them free? If there is no curing the fried brain, would it not stand to reason that the person would be violent if set free? Mental disease or defect does not make the murder any less of a murder, yet for some reason 'society' demands that it be viewed as such.

To me that is insanity. The cure? Stop coddling criminals and stop making up excuses as to why they committed crimes. The why is not really an issue (aside from motive) whether it be for drugs or because they are mentally deranged the person is still dead. Criminals need to be punished for their crimes not rehabilitated. We need to help them to prevent them from committing more crimes? Thats pap!! Staying out of jail is impetus enough to keep from committing crimes, it's worked for me and millions of other Americans. If someone wants to keep committing crimes they are a permanent threat to society and should be dealt with accordingly.

Hard example of what is wrong. Look at the nut job that went on a shooting spree at VT. Student organizations are actually issuing statements saying that that nut ball wako jerk off was "a human first" and that we should not focus on the one bad thing that he did wrong but focus on the rest of his life.

What do I say to that?
PAP!!

I could care less if he donated billions of dollars to help the educational system in America, what he did wiped out any and all good things that could have ever been done by anyone anywhere during all time.
How about this little twist? If we need to focus on the good things that people do and not the bad, how do you think that student organization would feel if I went to them and proposed that they issue a similar statement for Adolf Hitler? Yes he killed millions of Jews just cause he was a wako nutjob, but focus on the good! He brought a nation out of a horrid depression, gave hope and pride back to Germans and made them feel good about themselves (and thats whats most important), and almost eradicated unemployment in Germany. How would that go over?

Sick sick sick moral relativity is the cancer destroying America.
I could go on and on but I have said enough for now.

Thank you and goodnight!

O'Brien

WAR IS PEACE
FREEDOM IS SLAVERY
IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH

Darling Blue Bell begs the question

Dear Comrade Laika (and others who responded to my post re: the TYC),

Thanks for your interest, and please excuse my delay in replying. I have to say something....

First you call me a Nazi Torturer of Children of the TYC (satire?). Then you turn around and yell that I'm too soft, too gullible, and too sympathetic to low life criminals !! (satire?)

Yes it's satire. It hurt you didn't it? If it did, I'm sorry, but sometimes strong satire is the best medicine. That's why we're here to help you on your journey.
Do you remember what Dick Durbin, esteemed jackass Senator from the Land of Lincoln said last Flag Day on the Senate floor? I remember. Let me know if you need some memory refreshing.

BTW what do you think of the real estate criminal Senate Majority leader's latest comment? I think him and Durbin sit around and drink Cisco and smoke the glass dick before they make their comments.....just an observation.

Your Casper observation was correct. You're dating yourself (no jokes Theocritus) and I am too.

God Bless the Jarheads at Gitmo.
God Bless our troops.

Son of a Squid and a veteran Grunt,
Laika

Laika the Space Dog wrote:
Do you remember what Dick Durbin, esteemed jackass Senator from the Land of Lincoln said last Flag Day on the Senate floor? I remember. Let me know if you need some memory refreshing.

Ah it warms my heart and makes me proud that I live in such a progressive state that our wonderful Comrades stay such glorious things that live on in The People's memory.

O'Brien

WAR IS PEACE
FREEDOM IS SLAVERY
IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH

O'Brien

If there is no curing the fried brain, would it not stand to reason that the person would be violent if set free? Mental disease or defect does not make the murder any less of a murder, yet for some reason 'society' demands that it be viewed as such.

SMO's all over this angle with the Clockwork Orange analogy

Awesome piece of work, Laika. Keep up the good work. Apparently BB never was able to handle responsibility out in the real world which is pretty much typical of Texas liberals. They are always ready to criticise and never ready to throw a shoulder into the hard work that makes the world go 'round in a responsible direction. That is part of the reason the US will be second rate world power to China in the foreseeable future.
And bear with me a moment.
Every country's resources can be described as mineral, plant and animal. Every one of those resources are the basic building blocks to wealth creation. That, IMHO, is the reason the communistic environmentalists and other reds are targeting US coal, iron ore, animal meat production, eggs, oil and gas etc. etc.. History proves that no country can become or remain a world power without being able to develop its own natural resources which leads to wealth creation that leads to a present ability to build the heavy machinery that is absolutely essential to winning wars.
No matter how brave the soldiers, everything else being equal, the country with the most equipment wins......every time.