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Why Doesn't Communism Have as Bad a Name as Nazism?

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Something you always wanted to know but was afraid to ask.


Why Doesn't Communism Have as Bad a Name as Nazism?
By Dennis Prager

Why is it that when people want to describe particularly evil individuals or regimes, they use the terms "Nazi" or "Fascist" but almost never "Communist?"

Given the amount the human suffering Communists have caused - 70 million killed in China, 20-30 million in the former Soviet Union, and almost one-third of all Cambodians; the decimation of Tibetan and Chinese culture; totalitarian enslavement of North Koreans, Chinese, Vietnamese, and Russians; a generation deprived of human rights in Cuba; and much more — why is "Communist" so much less a term of revulsion than "Nazi?"

There are Mao Restaurants in major cities in the Western world. Can one imagine Hitler Restaurants? Che Guevara T-shirts are ubiquitous, yet there are no Heinrich Himmler T-shirts.

This question is of vital significance. First, without moral clarity, humanity has little chance of avoiding a dark future. Second, the reasons for this moral imbalance tell us a great deal about ourselves today. Here, then, are seven reasons.

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1. Communists murdered their own people; the Nazis murdered others. Under Mao about 70 million people died - nearly all in peacetime! - virtually all of them Chinese. Likewise, the approximately 30 million people that Stalin had killed were nearly all Russians, and those who were not Russian, Ukrainians for example, were members of other Soviet nationalities.

The Nazis, on the other hand, killed very few fellow Germans. Their victims were Jews, Slavs and members of other "non-Aryan" and "inferior" groups.

"World opinion" - that vapid amoral concept - deems the murder of members of one's group far less noteworthy than the murder of outsiders. That is one reason why blacks killing millions of fellow blacks in the Congo right now elicits no attention from "world opinion." But if an Israeli soldier is charged with having killed a Gaza woman and two children, it makes the front page of world newspapers.

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2. Communism is based on lovely sounding theories; Nazism is based on heinous sounding theories.

Intellectuals, among whom are the people who write history, are seduced by words — so much so that deeds are deemed considerably less significant. Communism's words are far more intellectually and morally appealing than the moronic and vile racism of Nazism. The monstrous evils of communists have not been focused on nearly as much as the monstrous deeds of the Nazis. The former have been regularly dismissed as perversions of a beautiful doctrine (though Christians who committed evil in the name of Christianity are never regarded by these same people as having perverted a beautiful doctrine), whereas Nazi atrocities have been perceived (correctly) as the logical and inevitable results of Nazi ideology.

This seduction by words while ignoring deeds has been a major factor in the ongoing appeal of the left to intellectuals. How else explain the appeal of a Che Guevara or Fidel Castro to so many left-wing intellectuals, other than that they care more about beautiful words than about vile deeds?

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3. Germans have thoroughly exposed the evils of Nazism, have taken responsibility for them, and attempted to atone for them. Russians have not done anything similar regarding Lenin's or Stalin's horrors. Indeed, an ex-KGB man runs Russia, Lenin is still widely revered, and, in the words of University of London Russian historian Donald Rayfield, "people still deny by assertion or implication, Stalin's holocaust."

Nor has China in any way exposed the greatest mass murderer and enslaver of them all, Mao Zedong. Mao remains revered in China.

Until Russia and China acknowledge the evil their states have done under communism, communism's evils will remain less acknowledged by the world than the evils of the German state under Hitler.

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4. Communism won, Nazism lost. And the winners write history.

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5. Nothing matches the Holocaust. The rounding up of virtually every Jewish man, woman, child, and baby on the European continent and sending them to die is unprecedented and unparalleled. The communists killed far more people than the Nazis did but never matched the Holocaust in the systemization of murder. The uniqueness of the Holocaust and the enormous attention paid to it since then has helped ensure that Nazism has a worse name than communism.

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6. There is, simply put, widespread ignorance of communist atrocities compared to those of the Nazis. Whereas, both right and left loathe Nazism and teach its evil history, the left dominates the teaching profession, and therefore almost no one teaches communist atrocities. As much as intellectuals on the left may argue that they loathe Stalin or the North Korean regime, few on the left loathe communism. As the French put it, "pas d'enemis a la gauche," which in English means "no enemies on the left." This is certainly true of Chinese, Vietnamese, and Cuban communism. Check your local university's courses and see how many classes are given on communist totalitarianism or mass murder compared to the number of classes about Nazism's immoral record.

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7. Finally, in the view of the left, the last "good war" America fought was World War II, the war against German and Japanese fascism. The left does not regard America's wars against communist regimes as good wars. The war against Vietnamese communism is regarded as immoral and the war against Korean (and Chinese) communism is simply ignored.

Until the left and all the institutions influenced by the left acknowledge how evil communism has been, we will continue to live in a morally confused world. Conversely, the day the left does come to grips with communism's legacy of human destruction, it will be a very positive sign that the world's moral compass has begun to correct itself.

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Liberals supported Hitler and his National Socialists until he turned on their beloved Stalin. Then, and only then, they began to emphasize his evils. They also worked to distinguish his National Socialism from their International brand. To that end, they and Soviet liars began referring to it as "fascism" and "Nazism" to distance themselves from it. Their propaganda efforts are why Nazism has a far worse name than communism today.

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This is exactly why we need a Non-Aggression Pact between the Obamazis and the Obamunists!

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Unfortunately...
Obama's rise has more to do with Nazism than Communism.
The closer you look, the scarier it gets....
https://thepeoplescube.com/red/richedit/cliparts/karakteroff/OutOfCharacter.gif

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The day the commies and the Left recognize the sins of communism is the day Hell freezes over, I get struck by lightning, and D.C. is burned to the ground by evil mole people.

Now, if some other party, say the Right, exposes these wrongs and it gains attention, well, that's a different, and better story.

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Comrade Red Square, I would like to put this up on my website (https://www.everydayolympia.com/forum BTW I don't own the entire website, but do control the forums there) would it be acceptable to put the entire article with cites and links back or would you prefer something else? I will of course put the link here as well.

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Image I agree with all of the above. I would add that a lot of it is perception. Nazism has a violent face due to the barbarism of Hitler and his followers throughout history, even those of the present day. As Prager notes, Hitler started World War II and perpetrated the Holocaust. Nazism's violence is overt. Conversely, communism's violence is covert. It's public face was compassion, brotherhood, equality, blah, blah, blah, but the means of carrying out its goals are violent and repressive. Nazism would look you in the face and shoot you; communism would shake your hand and then stab you when your back is turned. The blatant unapologetic violence of Nazism is off-putting to civilized folk, even to those who might agree with some of its ideas. Communism, with its phony compassion and covert violence, is easily excused. It is easier for folks to say things like "Castro means well, he just sometimes goes to far." This is an illusion, but it is a satisfying illusion and allows the individual to reinforce his own self worth as well as to validate communism. Just my two cents, for what it's worth.

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I have indeed always wondered about this. But one thing that's always baffled me: At its core, isn't Nazism one form of socialism, Communism another, and it's all about two different kinds of socialists squabbling over who espouses the better form?

Would that also explain why so many Americans on the Left scoff at the notion that Obama and the Democrats are turning this country into another socialist regime, that it's a gross exaggeration to make comparisons to Marxism?

"World opinion" - that vapid amoral concept - deems the murder of members of one's group far less noteworthy than the murder of outsiders. That is one reason why blacks killing millions of fellow blacks in the Congo right now elicits no attention from "world opinion." But if an Israeli soldier is charged with having killed a Gaza woman and two children, it makes the front page of world newspapers.

At the risk of wandering off topic, this goes on right here in America: Anytime a white cop kills a black person, there are riots and lootings and Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton. But blacks kill blacks all the time and it gets none of the same hype. Some states have "hate crimes" legislation on the books to mete out extra severe punishment for killing someone who isn't one of your own, whether it's due to race, religion, sexual orientation, etc.

Here's an exception that I've always found bizarre. Or maybe it isn't. A black sheriff's deputy was shot and killed by a white man who was later killed in a standoff with the cops. They investigated the possibility that the shooting was racially motivated, but could never prove it or that the killer, for all his creepiness, had any ties to white supremacy groups.

This sheriff's deputy had an outstanding record, was a devoted family man, and in every way a model citizen. His killer was scum.

This incident happened in the Tampa Bay area, which has seen racial riots in the past in nearby St. Petersburg. Yet there was not one single squawk of outrage from the so-called black community. No rioting. No burnings. No lootings. No visits from Jesse or Al. In fact, zilch from Jesse and Al.

I've always wondered if it's because this deputy was too responsible an American, and--dare I say it?--"acted too white" instead of relying on his victim-of-racism card.

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From the standpoint of a silly and feminine woman like myself:

Everyone has secret wishes. One of the most universal wishes is to receive all things for free. Under communism, everything is free. Free housing, free food, free education, free brassieres. Now, doesn't that sound just wonderful?

And, of course, to kill millions in order to create a society where everything is free. What is so terrible about that? Just like shoppers who wait in long lines and then rush into a store all at once to get the good deals, so what if a few of them get trampled on? The good sale price is what matters the most.

The other secret wish is to witness (and sometimes partake in) the destruction of all those who have more than us. "Boohoo," she's prettier than me, I hate her."

These things are so appealing, that no matter what the history is, greed (to receive free things) and envious destruction can renew the dream of utopia over and over again. But, then again, did not the Nazis have these same aspirations? Now I am confusing myself.

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It's simple, Comrades. Communism FEELS good and when you make all your decisions based FEELINGS rather than facts, you know what the outcome will be. Power to The People!!

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Comrade Opiate has it right, at it's root Communism/Socialism is advertisied as "for the People". How could that be bad? It elevates the status of "the worker" to "state hero", the backbone of the state. Who could argue with that? Working together for the collective good, "From each according to his ability, to each according to his need" it looks really good on paper. It perports to equalize society, yet all it really does is lock people into the class into which they are born.

I find it funny that people who believe in Communism also believe in Evolution and not Creationism.

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Comrade FDR said it best:

"The right to a useful and remunerative job in the industries or shops or farms or mines of the nation."

SHOVELS FOR ALL!!! Upward mobility is a thing of the past.

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Obamissar 7.62 wrote:Comrade Red Square, I would like to put this up on my website
Dear Obamissar, as you may have noticed, this article has been mime-swiped from another website, with a link. Sharing of this kind is common on the Internet and is not forbidden. In case of long articles, an excerpt is appropriate with a link to the rest.

The reason I posted the entire thing is that I wanted to have it on the site for reference at all times, without relying on someone else's archives. I have seen things disappear into oblivion before; better safe than sorry.

In other words, if anyone is to be asked for a permission, it's Dennis Prager.

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Actually, Red, there's a trendy Nazi clothing line from Izzue in Hong Kong that became popular here in Korea. However, more towards your point, westerners here find it very offensive. It would seem that the popularity of a given totalitarian chic is proportional to the number of people killed under the said political movement.

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Commissarka Pinkie wrote:Image
I have indeed always wondered about this. But one thing that's always baffled me: At its core, isn't Nazism one form of socialism, Communism another, and it's all about two different kinds of socialists squabbling over who espouses the better form?

Absolutely. The biggest difference between them is the color of their uniforms. Paraphrasing Rush Limbaugh's line ("A squirrel is just a rat with better P.R.") we can conclude that a communist is just a Nazi with better P.R. Much better P.R.

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Dr. Strangelove wrote:Image
Actually, Red, there's a trendy Nazi clothing line from Izzue in Hong Kong that became popular here in Korea. However, more towards your point, westerners here find it very offensive. It would seem that the popularity of a given totalitarian chic is proportional to the number of people killed under the said political movement.

That's very interesting. So I infer that the Koreans themselves do not find it offensive, perhaps regarding the Nazi symbolism with the same avant garde attitude as Americans have towards Che Guevera shirts and other communist symbolism. If so, do the Koreans have the same attitude towards the communist symbolism or do they find THAT offensive?

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Opiate of the People wrote:
Dr. Strangelove wrote:Image
Actually, Red, there's a trendy Nazi clothing line from Izzue in Hong Kong that became popular here in Korea. However, more towards your point, westerners here find it very offensive. It would seem that the popularity of a given totalitarian chic is proportional to the number of people killed under the said political movement.

That's very interesting. So I infer that the Koreans themselves do not find it offensive, perhaps regarding the Nazi symbolism with the same avant garde attitude as Americans have towards Che Guevera shirts and other communist symbolism. If so, do the Koreans have the same attitude towards the communist symbolism or do they find THAT offensive?

They also wear 'Che' t-shirts, but most of them don't have a clue as to who he is. Somebody should start a Tojo clothing line and make Kim Il-sung t-shirts in order to see the Korean reaction.

When I first came here in 1992, one of the reoccurring skits on the main 'comedy' show had comedians in black face paint acting live slaves being scolded and beaten by comedians acting like white Southern plantation owners. Koreans thought it was a real hoot. I often wondered what their reactions would be if there was a comedy skit in America with comedians pretending to be Japanese soldiers abusing Korean villagers and comfort women. Boy, wouldn't that be 'funny.'

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Red Square wrote:
Obamissar 7.62 wrote:Comrade Red Square, I would like to put this up on my website
Dear Obamissar, as you may have noticed, this article has been mime-swiped from another website, with a link. Sharing of this kind is common on the Internet and is not forbidden. In case of long articles, an excerpt is appropriate with a link to the rest.

The reason I posted the entire thing is that I wanted to have it on the site for reference at all times, without relying on someone else's archives. I have seen things disappear into oblivion before; better safe than sorry.

In other words, if anyone is to be asked for a permission, it's Dennis Prager.

Comrade Red Square, I failed to notice that it was written by someone else when I wrote my reply. I will forgo my vodka ration for a day or two now...

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Commissarka Pinkie wrote:Image
At the risk of wandering off topic, this goes on right here in America: Anytime a white cop kills a black person, there are riots and lootings and Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton. But blacks kill blacks all the time and it gets none of the same hype. Some states have "hate crimes" legislation on the books to mete out extra severe punishment for killing someone who isn't one of your own, whether it's due to race, religion, sexual orientation, etc.

Here's an exception that I've always found bizarre. Or maybe it isn't. A black sheriff's deputy was shot and killed by a white man who was later killed in a standoff with the cops. They investigated the possibility that the shooting was racially motivated, but could never prove it or that the killer, for all his creepiness, had any ties to white supremacy groups.

This sheriff's deputy had an outstanding record, was a devoted family man, and in every way a model citizen. His killer was scum.

This incident happened in the Tampa Bay area, which has seen racial riots in the past in nearby St. Petersburg. Yet there was not one single squawk of outrage from the so-called black community. No rioting. No burnings. No lootings. No visits from Jesse or Al. In fact, zilch from Jesse and Al.

I've always wondered if it's because this deputy was too responsible an American, and--dare I say it?--"acted too white" instead of relying on his victim-of-racism card.
On the "acted too white" note, that sounds like a possibility, considering the combined efforts of MTV, ganster rap (or gansta rap for those who prefer it that way), the Obama, Jesse and Al, and the teenagers of my (thank you God for removing me from this) generation. Being "black" is what's important, partaking in heidonism and achieving it by killing, stealing, and just plain brute force. Where as being "white" is getting an education (or at least a piece of paper saying you can read), working hard, or even just working to make a decent living, remaining faithful to your partner regardless of your preference, and taking in pleasure which only satisfies you and affects no one else (i.e. stealing=good for you, bad for the one you stole from).

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Opiate of the People wrote:
Commissarka Pinkie wrote:Image
I have indeed always wondered about this. But one thing that's always baffled me: At its core, isn't Nazism one form of socialism, Communism another, and it's all about two different kinds of socialists squabbling over who espouses the better form?

Absolutely. The biggest difference between them is the color of their uniforms. Paraphrasing Rush Limbaugh's line ("A squirrel is just a rat with better P.R.") we can conclude that a communist is just a Nazi with better P.R. Much better P.R.
Or at least better Doublespeak powers.

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Dr. Strangelove wrote:
Opiate of the People wrote:
Dr. Strangelove wrote:Image
Actually, Red, there's a trendy Nazi clothing line from Izzue in Hong Kong that became popular here in Korea. However, more towards your point, westerners here find it very offensive. It would seem that the popularity of a given totalitarian chic is proportional to the number of people killed under the said political movement.

That's very interesting. So I infer that the Koreans themselves do not find it offensive, perhaps regarding the Nazi symbolism with the same avant garde attitude as Americans have towards Che Guevera shirts and other communist symbolism. If so, do the Koreans have the same attitude towards the communist symbolism or do they find THAT offensive?

They also wear 'Che' t-shirts, but most of them don't have a clue as to who he is. Somebody should start a Tojo clothing line and make Kim Il-sung t-shirts in order to see the Korean reaction.

When I first came here in 1992, one of the reoccurring skits on the main 'comedy' show had comedians in black face paint acting live slaves being scolded and beaten by comedians acting like white Southern plantation owners. Koreans thought it was a real hoot. I often wondered what their reactions would be if there was a comedy skit in America with comedians pretending to be Japanese soldiers abusing Korean villagers and comfort women. Boy, wouldn't that be 'funny.'
I'm surprised these (I noticed they're dated, yes) stories never made it to America (wink, wink) after all, isn't the idea of slavery suppose to be an obsolete term?

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Somebody should start a Tojo clothing line and make Kim Il-sung t-shirts in order to see the Korean reaction.
Tojo's Mojo Jap Fraps

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Engrish anybody?

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Commissar_Elliott wrote: I'm surprised these (I noticed they're dated, yes) stories never made it to America (wink, wink) after all, isn't the idea of slavery suppose to be an obsolete term?

It gets resurrected as required to make political points or for use in the extortive arts, which are pretty much the same thing.

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Laika the Space Dog wrote:
Somebody should start a Tojo clothing line and make Kim Il-sung t-shirts in order to see the Korean reaction.

Engrish anybody?

Engrishi.

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Dr. Strangelove wrote:Image
Actually, Red, there's a trendy Nazi clothing line from Izzue in Hong Kong that became popular here in Korea. However, more towards your point, westerners here find it very offensive. It would seem that the popularity of a given totalitarian chic is proportional to the number of people killed under the said political movement.

Some while back I read about that, along with a Nazi-themed bar in Seoul (or was it HK? Not Tokyo.). The patrons seemed to have little or no idea who/what Hitler was/did. The bar was just grungy hence cool.

At the beginning of this century I once had a student from Vietnam. Very bright (otherwise the student would still be in Vietnam). For some reason, Hitler came up in a class topic and the student had no idea who he was. Why was Hitler not in the history classes? Because Hitler committed crimes far in excess of, yet not wholly unlike, Ho Chi Minh's? Because, like DPRK, there was little time left to teach after Party ideology was pounded in? Because Europe was far away and there were no Jews in Vietnam? Strange.

I have read newspaper reports--cough, credibility, cough--stating that up to 20% of Japanese HS students think Japan and the US fought together against Germany.

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Dr. Strangelove wrote:They also wear 'Che' t-shirts, but most of them don't have a clue as to who he is. Somebody should start a Tojo clothing line and make Kim Il-sung t-shirts in order to see the Korean reaction.

When I first came here in 1992, one of the reoccurring skits on the main 'comedy' show had comedians in black face paint acting live slaves being scolded and beaten by comedians acting like white Southern plantation owners. Koreans thought it was a real hoot. I often wondered what their reactions would be if there was a comedy skit in America with comedians pretending to be Japanese soldiers abusing Korean villagers and comfort women. Boy, wouldn't that be 'funny.'

P1: Che shirts big in Japan, but I've accosted a few young people wearing them to announce he was a mass murderer. They look at me shocked (I say it in Japanese) and like I'm nuts.

P2: Only if rebroadcast to RoK. It's long past time for the US to leave there.

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As much as the word "Fascist!" gets ejaculated all over anyone not subscribing to groupthink, I am always surprised that Il Duce, the Father of Fascism, doesn't get harshed on more frequently. Maybe it's because he was a paper tiger that dragged down the Germans. Maybe it's because he claimed to his dying day (if my memory of one biography of him is true) that he was a Socialist and therefore immune to blasphemy.

But I believe he used chemical (gas) attacks against the Ethiopians or Eritreans, established colonies, and allegedly made the trains run on time (thus oppressing unions, non?_.

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Hey Tovarich & Strangelove!

I've been Mime-banned since....since I forget when....
But anyhow, he'll shit his pants if he sees an Asian IP.

Just a thought.

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It sounds like I have a patriotic proletarian duty to fulfil. How do I find this Mime to flip his lid?

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Oh, goody gumdrops, yes! You must go and slap The Mime! His site's considered a spam link here, but it's impeachforpeace dot org. He thinks he's Ahab to Bush's white whale.

That being said, the Pequod's taking on water and it's pretty dead over there. His most recent swipe is a video of Obama's 60 Minutes interview where he whines about Cheney criticizing him.

He's also posted more naked Abu Ghraib photos, with George Bush photoshopped into them enjoying some popcorn. The guards may have taken away the Muslim prisoners' dignity, but why the hell should the Mime give it back to them? That's why the government invented financial reparations.

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I hadn't been over there in a while, but it was looking pretty Progressive when I went today. I think he signs on as "Den" to provide dittohead comments so it doesn't look so lonely in the comments section. I think the Comrades are responsible for most of his other comments.

His news article about Fat Bastard is my favorite- "Former Gitmo Guard Becomes Whistleblower - More to Come?" Some guy who got out of the army as a private (not a common occurence- you automatically make SPC in a couple years...) who bears a striking resemblance to a refrigerator makes all kinds of claims about the horrible things going on- things like low temperatures (it's called Air Conditioning, bitch!) and loud music (disco party?), as well as a guy who had a limb overextended during physical therapy. Physical therapy? At GTMO for detainees? Hell, it's hard enough to get physical therapy under Try-Care, and the terrorists are getting it? Bloody hell!

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Ahh a glorious comrade in the Olympia Collective has told me that because the "fascists" (including strangely enough the "National Socialists" killed their 70 some odd millions during WWII they must be more evil than the communists who did not manage to go out and kill 70 million people during WWII. Clearly anything before or after WWII is meaningless (as the article points out) they are were internal matters, not worthy of the attention of the world.

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Speaking of the Slap the Mime game, it would be even better if you register under Korean and Japanese names respectively, and slap him as comrades from other cultures.

We're playing those mime games together
Pushing the barriers, planting seeds
Playing the mime guerrilla
Chanting the mantra, peace on earth
We all been playing those mime games forever
Some kinda comrades lifting the veil
Doing the mime guerrilla
Some call it magic, the search for the grail

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Red Square wrote:Speaking of the Slap the Mime game, it would be even better if you register under Korean and Japanese names respectively, and slap him as comrades from other cultures.

We're playing those mime games together
Pushing the barriers, planting seeds
Playing the mime guerrilla
Chanting the mantra, peace on earth
We all been playing those mime games forever
Some kinda comrades lifting the veil
Doing the mime guerrilla
Some call it magic, the search for the grail

I'm in, but tell me the rules and tricks to effectively slapping the mime. How does one win the game? What are some classic examples of the best of the best mime slaps from our collective? And, lastly, is this anything like 'Whac-A-Mole?'

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Comrade Tovarich opined:(I just had to say that lol)
[HIGHLIGHT=#ffff00]P1: Che shirts big in Japan, but I've accosted a few young people wearing them to announce he was a mass murderer. They look at me shocked (I say it in Japanese) and like I'm nuts.

[/HIGHLIGHT]Comrade, I am terribly hurt at your baseless accusations about me! The soldiers I eliminated were in a war, and "all is fair in love and war", Si? These traitors would not fight, and had to be held up as examples; otherwise I would have had even more deserters! Surely, as a revolutionary executioner....leader of your people, you do understand my reasoning?

If you notice, amigo, my PR is so much better than your PR these days! LOL So please, stop your "insane" attacks, and pause to realize that my good PR helps our glorious indoctrination of the Children(tm). Pardon me now. I must make some cheesecakes for Rahmbo Emanuel. He's courting some new recruits for the 2010 election already. Where does that man get all his energy?
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PS. Glad you liked the soup, comrade. SOUP IS GOOD FOOD!

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Comrade_Tovarich wrote:
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Actually, Red, there's a trendy Nazi clothing line from Izzue in Hong Kong that became popular here in Korea. However, more towards your point, westerners here find it very offensive. It would seem that the popularity of a given totalitarian chic is proportional to the number of people killed under the said political movement.

Some while back I read about that, along with a Nazi-themed bar in Seoul (or was it HK? Not Tokyo.). The patrons seemed to have little or no idea who/what Hitler was/did. The bar was just grungy hence cool.

At the beginning of this century I once had a student from Vietnam. Very bright (otherwise the student would still be in Vietnam). For some reason, Hitler came up in a class topic and the student had no idea who he was. Why was Hitler not in the history classes? Because Hitler committed crimes far in excess of, yet not wholly unlike, Ho Chi Minh's? Because, like DPRK, there was little time left to teach after Party ideology was pounded in? Because Europe was far away and there were no Jews in Vietnam? Strange.

I have read newspaper reports--cough, credibility, cough--stating that up to 20% of Japanese HS students think Japan and the US fought together against Germany.


The Hitler Restaurant was in Mumbai. We did a piece on it.
Those 20% are correct...In the First World War. The Nips kicked Kraut ass at Tsing Tao. Thank God they didn't destroy the brewery. The ChiComs still use it and the original German recipe. Yum Yum! Tastes just like they brewed it in the Vaterland. The Germans had a port concession right to Tsing Tao like all the European powers in the late 19th century with other port cities and built a brewery while they ran the town. Funny story....when the Japanese and British troops had a victory march in Tsing Tao, the surrendered Germans lined the route, honored the Japanese by saluting, and when the Brits marched passed them, they did an about face and turned their backs to them since they played a miniscule part in the battle.

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I think he signs on as "Den" to provide dittohead comments so it doesn't look so lonely in the comments section.
Ahh...so Dennis M. Mccullough has shortened his nom de guerre to just "Den"?
Are the sentences non-structured?

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Dearest Laika,

Here are some samples of "Den" that I MimeSwiped for your analysis:

1. Bush is Guilty Cheney needs to be buried,,
Comment by Den — March 22, 2009 @ 6:23 pm

1. Well Mikael somebody needs to just start the prosecution of Bush/Cheney
and get on with it,,,
It's getting to be media hype ambition,,Mikael whats up with Gallup's lawsuit over the
NO Evacuation Order 9/11? Cheney/Rumsfield should plea guilty…
Comment by Den — March 22, 2009 @ 6:22 pm

1. Then prosecute Cheney and quit playing with it.
Comment by den — March 16, 2009 @ 11:15 am

Methinks Chubby scared so much crap out of him with all that pig-abuse, that Dennis T. Mccullough felt compelled to change his name and possibly the part in his hair. You'll never find him now!

Impeach!!!,,,evict!!!

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Well, Captain Ramos just posted this on impeachforpeace.com(that's me for the new proles).
Mikael the Mimeswipe will probably ban me for good, but I will at least be in good company, eh Laika? I just couldn't stomach this pri*k any longer! Anyone else you need blasted, Hero Space Dog? I'm in rare form today after hearing that the 9/11 Freedom Tower is being renamed to satisfy one of it's new tenants....CHINA!
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http://impeachforpeace.org/impeach_bush ... ment-97984

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Che Gourmet wrote:Comrade, I am terribly hurt at your baseless accusations about me! The soldiers I eliminated were in a war, and "all is fair in love and war", Si? These traitors would not fight, and had to be held up as examples; otherwise I would have had even more deserters! Surely, as a revolutionary executioner....leader of your people, you do understand my reasoning?

If you notice, amigo, my PR is so much better than your PR these days! LOL So please, stop your "insane" attacks, and pause to realize that my good PR helps our glorious indoctrination of the Children(tm).

PS. Glad you liked the soup, comrade. SOUP IS GOOD FOOD!

Comrade Che Gourmet,

Indeed, I have gone overboard, but at least not to the Other Side.

I do not know your age, but perhaps you are familiar with the Dead Kennedys' song "Soup is Good Food." It is very progressive:


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Commissarka Pinkie wrote:Dearest Laika,

Here are some samples of "Den" that I MimeSwiped for your analysis:

1. Bush is Guilty Cheney needs to be buried,,
Comment by Den — March 22, 2009 @ 6:23 pm

Commissarka Pinkie,

I see a Japanese name has suggested that Kim Jung-Il be impeached for stealing Japanese, Putin be impeached for invading Georgia, and such. This ingrate even mentioned American aid to Japan after the war and how Iraq and Japan are now happy together thanks to Japanese building roads, schools, etc.

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Comrade_Tovarich wrote:I do not know your age, but perhaps you are familiar with the Dead Kennedys' song "Soup is Good Food." It is very progressive:

I like their version of "Take This Job and Shove It" better than the C&W version. I heard back in the day they opened their concerts with the Pledge of Allegiance: "I pledge allegiance to the flag of the Fascist States of America..."

I found The Dead Milkmen to be more entertaining, though.


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Egads, I still have that LP! "Filet of sole, baby, it's my favorite dish!" I never knew anyone with a bitchin' Camaro, but I did have a friend with a NO2-powered Mustang II. That was pretty bitchin'.

Surely my fellow comrades can savor this one:

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Actually, Red, there's a trendy Nazi clothing line from Izzue in Hong Kong that became popular here in Korea

Say what you will about thier politics, but those Nazis were snappy dressers. (Try saying that to room full of Freshmen in a World History course with a straight face. Their reactions are priceless.)

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That's a good point. Is there a totalitarian regime that doesn't have snappy dressers, given local cultural norms of apparel?

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Comrade_Tovarich wrote:Egads, I still have that LP! "Filet of sole, baby, it's my favorite dish!" I never knew anyone with a bitchin' Camaro, but I did have a friend with a NO2-powered Mustang II. That was pretty bitchin'.

Surely my fellow comrades can savor this one:

Skinny Puppy?



Ministry?


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STOP Herr Doktor!

My ears are bleeding! Have mercy, amigo! I'm into many kinds of music, but this pounding, and the instant headache it produces doesn't qualify as music to this old revolutionary, comrade!

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Comrade_Tovarich wrote:I have read newspaper reports--cough, credibility, cough--stating that up to 20% of Japanese HS students think Japan and the US fought together against Germany.


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And to make it worse, the non-Japanese instructors are teaching the Progressive drivel they were taught by the modern "educational establishment". My stepdaughter and son-in-law taught in Japan for two years. Neither knows what happened on December 7, 1941 or why the U.S. went to war with Japan and Germany. They couldn't teach the real history to their Japanese students even if they were so inclined. History has been changed and/or deleted.


When a grand-uncle who was there from Pearl to V-J Day and after, and who was wounded twice, dared to explain just what he thought about the Japanese and why, they almost called him a racist to his face. They have no conception of the hatred the Japanese earned because of the sneak attack or the atrocities the Japanese military committed. Nor can they concieve of the absolute devotion to country and emperor the Japanese had that forced the U.S. to decide A-bombs had to be used to save the lives of thousands of U.S. soldiers and Japanese civilians - patriotism of any kind is totally foreign to the "Me First" generation.

I'm ashamed I failed to counteract the Liberal "education" my stepkids received.

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Dr. Strangelove wrote:Skinny Puppy?

Ministry?

Out of deference to Comrade Che Gourmet (and the fact that I would prefer not to have a terminal holiday in El Cabaña), I will refrain from posting more videos. Perhaps.

Yet I must say I'm puzzled by both these. I know our age difference and have LPs and CDs by both bands, yet I don't know either song. Perhaps it's just that old saw, What a difference a difference makes!

Chicago being the metropolis with any impact on my formative years, I made many pilgrimages there. I even visited the WaxTrax studio and shop that produced the first Ministry albums and others (including Front 242 and whoever put out the "Kooler Than Jesus" techno number). Back in those days, Ministry's Alain Jourgenson (as related by a girl who had special powers to get behind stage at alternative concerts) claimed he was Belgian but a very arrogant wanker. Later I heard he had become American, Texan I believe, (and his name underwent a slight spelling change) to be more bad as his sound changed from techno to guitar noise. Maybe he even relocated to Austin.

In the Pacific Prolific Pokerific Reign of Clintonitus, I bought the CD single "Jesus Built My Hotrod," Ministry tag-teaming with the Butthole Surfers. With revving mega-block engines, squealing tires, drag racing commentary ("No human sound can stand up to this. Loud enough to knock you down." in the universal voice of sports commentators all across America, even at tractor pulls), and movie snippets (perhaps Jack Nicholson saying, "Nobody with a god care needs to be justified."), and a fast--ahem--driving pulse, it's hot hot HOT!

I'd buy it again for a dollar (but only used so as to deprive Jourgenson of the royalties)!

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Comrade Phuzzy Logik,

High school history here in Japan (reportedly still so today) largely stops at the start of the Pacific War (as it's usually called here). There are many Japanese who are unhappy about this and argue too much time is wasted on ancient Japan (Yayoi Period, etc.), but many are ambivalent or even prefer this erasure of modern Japan. Given bureaucratic inertia, I suspect the history content will not change. Since most Japanese go on to college, a feedback loop reinforces this: If the college entrance exam doesn't test WW2 knowledge or about the Japanese Red Army, few kids will study it. Why should they? It's of no immediate obvious use.

Please, do not get me started on the non-Japanese (i.e., "Western") instructors. I've found the few non-Western instructors to be quite good about teaching what they are hired to teach instead of "Die, Bush, die!" but then many come from totalitarian regimes or kleptocracies. The real world, as it were.

Since Japanese live forever, there's always a grandparent or other elderly relative who suffered through the war. Many explain how terrible war is from firsthand experience. Many lost siblings and relatives. Entering the Self-Defense Forces is not met as approvingly as enlisting is in the US. Yet one can see the creeping relativism. War is bad for everyone: Japanese, Americans, Chinese, British. Over time, this will slowly turn (as it apparently has in Germany) to only we were victims of those savage Americans (and, as an afterthought, their lackeys the UK, Oz, NZ, and Canada (but not the USSR, despite its postwar grab of Japan's Kurile Islands)).

My prediction is Eastern Europe, by joining the EU, will within a decade become as "pro"-American as any EU official in Brussels. Japan will take longer, and it might not even happen here: so many Japanese go to the US to study, work at factories (often the whole family going along for years), and play (especially in Guam, Saipan, and Hawaii) that it's perhaps less likely. It's often cheaper to visit those three destinations in the US than it is to visit Okinawa.

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Che Gourmet wrote:STOP Herr Doktor!

My ears are bleeding! Have mercy, amigo! I'm into many kinds of music, but this pounding, and the instant headache it produces doesn't qualify as music to this old revolutionary, comrade!

Comrade Che Gourmet,

Perhaps my memory is weakening as the decades accumulate, but did you not say people who listen to rock 'n' roll should be summarily executed, for it is the sound of capitalism?

Then again, if Carlos Santana wears your visage, maybe, like Rick about the waters of Casablanca, "I must have been misinformed."

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Phuzzy Logick wrote:
Comrade_Tovarich wrote:I have read newspaper reports--cough, credibility, cough--stating that up to 20% of Japanese HS students think Japan and the US fought together against Germany.


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And to make it worse, the non-Japanese instructors are teaching the Progressive drivel they were taught by the modern "educational establishment". My stepdaughter and son-in-law taught in Japan for two years. Neither knows what happened on December 7, 1941 or why the U.S. went to war with Japan and Germany. They couldn't teach the real history to their Japanese students even if they were so inclined. History has been changed and/or deleted.


When a grand-uncle who was there from Pearl to V-J Day and after, and who was wounded twice, dared to explain just what he thought about the Japanese and why, they almost called him a racist to his face. They have no conception of the hatred the Japanese earned because of the sneak attack or the atrocities the Japanese military committed. Nor can they concieve of the absolute devotion to country and emperor the Japanese had that forced the U.S. to decide A-bombs had to be used to save the lives of thousands of U.S. soldiers and Japanese civilians - patriotism of any kind is totally foreign to the "Me First" generation.

I'm ashamed I failed to counteract the Liberal "education" my stepkids received.

Comrade Phuzzy,

Have them watch this from a Japanese director who interviewed some Japanese soldiers and recorded what they did in their own words:

Interview with Director Matsui Minoru and Producer Oguri Ken'ichi of Japanese Devils: Confessions of Imperial Army Soldiers from Japan's War Against China

Riben Guizi (日本鬼子)
<br>Japanese Devils

I've found parts of it on youtube before by searching the Japanese title.

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Comrade_Tovarich wrote:
Dr. Strangelove wrote:Skinny Puppy?

Ministry?

Out of deference to Comrade Che Gourmet (and the fact that I would prefer not to have a terminal holiday in El Cabaña), I will refrain from posting more videos. Perhaps.

Yet I must say I'm puzzled by both these. I know our age difference and have LPs and CDs by both bands, yet I don't know either song. Perhaps it's just that old saw, What a difference a difference makes!

Chicago being the metropolis with any impact on my formative years, I made many pilgrimages there. I even visited the WaxTrax studio and shop that produced the first Ministry albums and others (including Front 242 and whoever put out the "Kooler Than Jesus" techno number). Back in those days, Ministry's Alain Jourgenson (as related by a girl who had special powers to get behind stage at alternative concerts) claimed he was Belgian but a very arrogant wanker. Later I heard he had become American, Texan I believe, (and his name underwent a slight spelling change) to be more bad as his sound changed from techno to guitar noise. Maybe he even relocated to Austin.

In the Pacific Prolific Pokerific Reign of Clintonitus, I bought the CD single "Jesus Built My Hotrod," Ministry tag-teaming with the Butthole Surfers. With revving mega-block engines, squealing tires, drag racing commentary ("No human sound can stand up to this. Loud enough to knock you down." in the universal voice of sports commentators all across America, even at tractor pulls), and movie snippets (perhaps Jack Nicholson saying, "Nobody with a god care needs to be justified."), and a fast--ahem--driving pulse, it's hot hot HOT!

I'd buy it again for a dollar (but only used so as to deprive Jourgenson of the royalties)!

"Fascist Jock Itch" is from Skinny Puppy's "Rabies" CD and "Thieves" is from Ministry's "The Mind is a Terrible Thing to Taste" CD (It's funny that Ministry started out with a light techno pop sound, such as with their song "Everyday Is Halloween," before evolving into industrial punk). I think I still have Front 242's "Front By Front" tape.

I currently like Disturbed, SOAD, and Green Day; showing that I am indeed a true progressive.

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What years abroad will do: Disturbed and SOAD mean nothing to me; Green Day I have heard, but only little as I don't get music channels on TV and don't go to many places where modern foreign pop is played. However, I have shopped for groceries, squeezing past grannies bent double from earlier lives spent planting rice, to Black Sabbath's "Iron Man," and not the muzak version.

Both the named albums I remember seeing for sale. I can see the covers in my mind without Scroogling them.

Don't tell me you too have a Scraping Foetus Off the Wheel album hidden away somewhere.

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Comrade_Tovarich wrote:
Che Gourmet wrote:STOP Herr Doktor!

My ears are bleeding! Have mercy, amigo! I'm into many kinds of music, but this pounding, and the instant headache it produces doesn't qualify as music to this old revolutionary, comrade!

Comrade Che Gourmet,

Perhaps my memory is weakening as the decades accumulate, but did you not say people who listen to rock 'n' roll should be summarily executed, for it is the sound of capitalism?

Then again, if Carlos Santana wears your visage, maybe, like Rick about the waters of Casablanca, "I must have been misinformed."

Indeed, Comrade Tovarich, you are correct! This was true when we were young and on the world stage, but now the youth of the USSA and the rest of the World, progressively wail loudly, proclaiming their righteous anger at the evil Capitalism and all its' atrocities across the planet. I do listen to dear Carlos though. He is so vibrant and continues to tour worldwide, for many progressive causes. http://www.santana.com/frameset2.html

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Comrade_Tovarich wrote:What years abroad will do: Disturbed and SOAD mean nothing to me; Green Day I have heard, but only little as I don't get music channels on TV and don't go to many places where modern foreign pop is played. However, I have shopped for groceries, squeezing past grannies bent double from earlier lives spent planting rice, to Black Sabbath's "Iron Man," and not the muzak version.

Both the named albums I remember seeing for sale. I can see the covers in my mind without Scroogling them.

Don't tell me you too have a Scraping Foetus Off the Wheel album hidden away somewhere.

I'm not familiar with Foetus. Here's some Disturbed and SOAD to sample. I'm sure 'Che' will love it! (I also like Santana and his amazing skillz.)

Disturbed:



System of a Down:



I'm sure you'll appreciate the progressiveness of the second one.

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Oh, and Comrade 'Comrade,' how could I forget this one given your location. Have some sugar:



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Dr. Strangelove wrote:Oh, and Comrade 'Comrade,' how could I forget this one given your location. Have some sugar:

Both the SOAD videos refuse to load, telling me in the local lingo that embedding is not effective. What? But I can see them and even get icons of suggested related tunes at the bottom.

For my earlier embedded Circle Jerks "video" from the movie Repo Man, the lyrics follow. Bearing in mind that's a Reagan-era movie and the lyrics are surely meant to be sarcastic, it's creepy how timely they have become again:

in a sluggish economy
inflation, recession
hits the land of the free
standing in unemployment lines
blame the government for hard times

we just get by
however we can
we all gotta duck
when the sh*t hits the fan

10 kids in a cadillac [man, that still gets lefties riled up, even today!]
stand in line for welfare checks
let's all leech off the state
gee! the money's really great!

soup lines
free loaves of bread
5lb blocks of cheese
bags of groceries
Social Security
has run out on you and me [and it has]
we do whatever we can
gotta duck when the shit hits the fan!

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Comrade_Tovarich wrote:
Dr. Strangelove wrote:Oh, and Comrade 'Comrade,' how could I forget this one given your location. Have some sugar:

Both the SOAD videos refuse to load, telling me in the local lingo that embedding is not effective. What? But I can see them and even get icons of suggested related tunes at the bottom.

Here are the links:

SOAD - Bring Your Own Bombs (B.Y.O.B.)

SOAD - Sugar

And some extras for Comrade 'Che'

SliPKnoT - Duality
<br>SliPKnoT - Before I Forget

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Comrade Dr. Strangelove,

These links work for me. As far as I'm concerned you've earned your beet ration, certainly deserved for "Sugar."

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Because communism is the glorious dream of the people. Just hasn't worked exactly as it was intended. But not to worry, we will get it right one of these days.
Nazism is dead(except for a few die-hard neos). It failed. Communism will never fail. It just gets recycled(so green-sounding!).

All we are saaaaying.... is give communism a chance! Nazis suck! Commies Rule!!

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I've been reading "<a href=" Black Book of Communism</a><img src="https://www.assoc-amazon.com/e/ir?t=the ... 0674076087" width="1" height="1" border="0" alt="" style="border:none !important; margin:0px !important;" />," whose introduction takes some time to contrast the two major totalitarian powers of the 20th century--Nazism and Communism. Both had pretty similar aims, and pretty similar methods of dealing with their "undesirables."

As a matter of fact, the Nazis modeled their concentration camps after Stalin's program.

At any rate, as has been mentioned before, the Nazis were somewhat overt in their violence. Some camps were pretty well hidden from nearby towns (Flossenbürg, for example), but with their defeat, everything was exposed.

And, the fact that they were among the enemies we were fighting in WWII, that added to their denounceability (is that a word?). The Soviets were our allies, and furthermore, kept their activities pretty much hidden from the rest of the world, both during WWII and afterward. It gave them long enough to polish their image, which Commie Groupies seem to want to perpetuate even today.

Truth of the matter is, Communism has killed a lot more than the Nazis (100 million and counting). Jews will quote the 6 million killed in the death camps (in operation for several years), but during just in the famine of 1938-9, that many died thanks to Soviet mismanagement and oppression.

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Che Gourmet wrote:Well, Captain Ramos just posted this on impeachforpeace.com(that's me for the new proles).
https://impeachforpeace.org/impeach_bus ... ment-97984

Commissar Che,

I humbly request that you copy/paste your comments on The Cube as well so The Collective can benefit from them before The Mime has his way with them.

The People's Douche wrote:Entry full of barely coherent ranting personal attacks deleted

It's for The Common Good. Thanks.

-COV


 
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