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Communists for Kerry to be deleted from Wikipedia

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UPDATE:

1/17/2017

Communists for Kerry page on Wikipedia has been purged

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The Wikipedia commissars seem to be very serious about rewriting history. Last week they have deleted The People's Cube page, and now they're pushing for the deletion of its prequel, Communists for Kerry.

A refresher for new comrades: "Communists for Kerry" + some images

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The live version of the CFK site exists as the main page only (it can be restored from the archive, but that requires some work). However, it is still very much browseable in Wayback Machine, albeit the images load a little slower. Click here - archived Communists for Kerry

And now for the main topic of Wikipedia and its recent spree of deletions.

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Here's how the Wikipedia page for Communists for Kerry looks like now:

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Here are the arguments for deletion, started on January 9, 2017.

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Communists for Kerry

For every article, Wikipedia has a page that lists all Wiki-pages referencing that article. For CFK, that page has 56 references:

Pages that link to "Communists for Kerry"

That includes 32 legitimate Wikipedia articles referencing Communists For Kerry. Deleting the CFK page will lead to all those other Wiki articles to have invalid links. Rewriting history is tricky that way.

Shouldn't the existence of 32 legitimate Wikipedia articles referencing Communists For Kerry serve as proof of notability by default?

As it turns out, there is a similar list for the Cube. There still is -

Pages that link to "The People's Cube"

But among many links to Wikipedia discussions, there are only 2 real Wikipedia articles. However, due to the ongoing rewriting of history, it's hard to tell if this is all there was, or this is only what's left after the purges.

It's a very Soviet/Orwellian attitude, and once this attitude becomes dominant, you can't win with a rational argument. During the Stalinist purges in the USSR, people were sometimes sentenced on such absurd charges as "digging an underground tunnel from London to Bombay." And no one dared ridicule such a charge because they would themselves be labeled as "unreliable" and charged with something like "being an embedded Middle Earth operative," or a "double agent for Oceania and Eastasia."

I would understand if Wikipedia was printed on paper and had a space limit. Deleting electronic articles has no such justification, which raises questions about the editors' ulterior motives. If they're deleting long-standing and well-linked articles based on their non-compliance with the editors' political belief system, that is pure Historical Revisionism - look it up in Wikipedia before the same historical revisionist delete this entry as well due to the lack of notability and media coverage.

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Since the complaint is about notability and insufficient media coverage, I spent a few hours today compiling a list of media mentions. Here's what I just posted on the Wikipedia discussion thread (and reposting it here for history).

KEEP - Notability proven without a shadow of a doubt by extensive news coverage by leading mainstream publications like the BBC, The Washington Post, The Atlantic, The Scotsman, New York Post, MTV, Fox News, NY Newsday, etc.

Below are some links to the 2004 media coverage of the Communists for Kerry group, activities, and interviews I was able to recover from the archived pages. The coverage on left-wing blogs is also extensive (mostly relating to the Fox News controversy), as well as an entertaining thread of comments on John Kerry's own blog. I'm also including a few expired links at the bottom, for historical purposes. The sheer volume and the prominent names should speak for themselves. I only wish I had compiled this list sooner.

Newspapers, magazines

Blogs:

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Billionaires For Bush at wikipedia suffers no such like fate.

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Comrade Otis wrote:Billionaires For Bush at wikipedia suffers no such like fate.

Nor does the moronic Wiki article titled, "Social Justice Warrior" (75% of which is referenced back to an opinion piece in The Washington Post)

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What harm would it do to submit an article entitled "Historical Revisionism on Wikipedia" that profiled the elimination of electronic articles such as that of the Peoples Cube? How could they justify deleting a historical record of what transpired during the process as well as the interweb's reaction to the outcome?

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To play "devil's advocate": the structure and references of the original wiki articles could use some updating. Ironically, after this clearly ideological "purging", the new updated wikipedia pages will have a lot more substance and references added than before! Now the "reviewers" (translation: comissars) have to make a final decision, but it has become very difficult to keep referring to the "non notability" wikipedia policy...

I'm curious how this will end, but if the pages are reinstated this is - in my eyes - a significant first step in the new global "cultur wars" that are meant to reclaim public domain and cultural institutions from the leftofascists who have conquered them.

And I completely understand the "battle fatigue" of the proud members of the "old guard" (you know who you are, wink wink), but I feel the "new generation" has to make an effort to defend ourselves - even on tainted websites like wikipedia.


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I will be glad when we get this straightened out so we can go after the REAL internet enemy: Speeded-Up Instructional Cooking Videos posted on Fakebook.

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Comrade Biffinaditch wrote:What harm would it do to submit an article entitled "Historical Revisionism on Wikipedia" that profiled the elimination of electronic articles such as that of the Peoples Cube? How could they justify deleting a historical record of what transpired during the process as well as the interweb's reaction to the outcome?

Greetings Comrade Biffi...etc.,

After slugging it out with what seemed to be an organized "team" of editors bent on a mission, who quickly and arbitrarily overcame any objections presented, I gave up. The "team" editors don't explain the reasons for what they do. Instead, they offer up Wiki shortcut links (example WP:?) that must be looked up and read by the inexperienced editor. They are also quick to back one another's claims (appropriate or not) - so, you lose every battle.

Example: Editor #1 answers your challenge with: "wrong! see reference (a WP:?)" You are unfamiliar with the obscure reference and must look up - in the meantime editor #2 has added another WP:? supposedly reinforcing editor #1's opinion. At some point you have to go to work, eat supper or get some sleep - but the Wiki editor "team" continues working 24/7 to accomplish their goal. i.e., you lose.

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but but (just thinkin' aloud) Comrade Director - isn't this Wikipedian purgatory a most equal GULAG for that group of noisy quasi-Russian proto-hackers, who denied All Humanity the Peace-distributing Services of nuanced Jéàn Frànçôîs Kèrrîê (who served in Vietnam, by the way) as P44?

P.S. and how nice to see Comrade Biff (with a clever suggestion) again!

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Genosse Dummkopf - what a great insight!

Indeed, Communists for Kerry could be seen as the first "Russian hackers" who "influenced the election" helping Bush win.

Kerry hasn't forgotten this and this time they launched a counter-attack, to make sure Russians of any persuasion (or ex-Soviets for that matter) can no longer be a factor lest they be accused of being imperial meat puppets.

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A good review of this debacle on American Rattlesnake, by Gerard Perry:

The Great Purge

Gerard Perry wrote:The unjustified and unjustifiable deletion of The People's Cube created a handy pretext for the deletion of the Wikipedia article about Communists for Kerry, which anticipated Oleg's current website. And even as Wikipedia is purging problematic content, other online titans are pursuing an agenda-at the behest of national governments-to suppress samizdat perspectives. Facebook is now helping Germans curate their newsfeed by eliminating any “fake” news which might reflect badly upon the woman who has spent the past 2 years attempting to obliterate German nationhood and culture.

This relentless assault on truth is occurring across the globe and in nearly every aspect of our culture and politics. It will only increase in intensity as the left recognizes their hold upon our civilization growing increasingly tenuous, and the decades-long march through our institutions rendered meaningless. It's up to us to ensure that their resistance does not succeed. We can't allow the greatest age of global communication to be controlled by high tech Stalinists.
More - https://american-rattlesnake.org/2017/0 ... eat-purge/

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MORE UNCOVERED MEDIA COVERAGE:

Communists for Kerry were the focus of a one-hour Russian-language TV show KONTAKT with Boris Tenzer, on New York's RTN (Russian Television Network). It aired live on November 1, 2004 - one day before Comrade Kerry lost the election (after which he was purged from the Party and replaced with his own cardboard cutout in the Senate).

The live show included answering direct questions from callers. The larger CFK group consisted of several Americans and four immigrants from the USSR, but that day in the RTN studio there were only 3 Russian-speaking CFK members: Oleg Atbashian, Ivan Leonov, and Julia Shafir.


Tenzer's archive has another YouTube video - an interview he had with me on November 8, 2010, in New York, about my book Shakedown Socialism and political philosophy in general.


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Additional media links showing notability - Time Magazine (April 25, 2005, Vol. 165, No. 17, Page 34) published a CFK picture that caused controversy and mockery on the Web. The sources below have the old link to Time; it's been since changed and is hidden behind a paywall, but the story about it with a beautiful picture can still be found in Daily Kos. This is already a second article about CFK in Daily Kos, which shows its authors thought CFK was notable.

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Following the controversy, Time editors had to change the caption under the picture and post a retraction. In the current online version of the article, the original picture gallery with captions has since been removed, but it was preserved on Daily Kos.


Here are the photos: The actual Time page has "Communists For Kerry" banner cut off at the top, but the online version from the picture gallery, preserved on Daily Kos, shows "Communists For Kerry" at the top of the banner. The images are below.


Many other blogs wrote about this controversy: Hannity.com, Free Republic, Little Green Footballs, ProtestWarrior, E-Nough, Viking Pundit, Ex-Donkey. A collection of links (most of them dead by now) was captured on this CFK page.--Atbashian (talk) 20:51, 16 January 2017 (UTC)

Sources of more media coverage - The CFK site is still browsable through the Wayback Machine. Its Media Watch section has 2 pages leading to various media publications:


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The CFK page has just been deleted from Wikipedia, for the crime of being unfunny and yet causing the proles to laugh at the Party, being not notable and yet causing too much disturbance, having too much exposure in the right-wing blogosphere and not enough glowing coverage by the fake-news mainstream media, etc. etc.

See the memorial page here:

Communists for Kerry page on Wikipedia has been purged


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(just being investigatively objective and 350% notabilitarious - not fouling Kube's glorious nest)


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Comrades - a clear proof that CFK is guilty of spreading Fake News™, ain't it ?
(& as for Kremlin hackery involved here, Comrade Director already confessed !)

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Embedded Middle Earth agents?
Don't you hate it when those elves do work work for you in the niddle of the night and bring you out of poverty by stealing your job you wouldn't do?
As for CFK, I found this site long after they existed. On the bright side, the internet is completely dominated by one news source or site like Wikipedia as opposed to the Pravda newspaper in the USSR. We still have our own websites and non-biased collectors like the wayback machine.


 
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