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Fascism is Communism-lite

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Comrades!

This cat was troubled for a while by the question of why do we, the Progressives, despise Fascism, even though it is so similar to Communism. True, many of the rank-and-file members of our glorious community are too busy raising awareness to educate themselves on the details of what they are denouncing. But the community organizers ought to know — and yet, Fascism is recognized as an evil regime. This seemed unfair until suddenly I understood...

Fascism is evil — a "cheap imitation" — because it does not go far enough. Indeed, although not a free marKKKet, it still leaves much industry and commerce in the private hands (even if those are the hands of government cronies). This makes it nicely inefficient economically (and thus producing less light- and noise-pollution), but nowhere near as great as Communism.

t also leaves standing too much of these so called "human rights". While Hitler is famous for genocide, the mass murder is not inherent in Fascism. Consider Germany's Fascist allies during WW2: none of Italy, Spain, or Romania were genocidal... Losers... Indeed, Franco's Spain was the safest place in Europe for Jews during the war, and those of them (and of Gypsies), who happened to be on Romania-occupied (southern) parts of the USSR largely survived the war.

On contrast, there is no Communism state in history, where mass murder (genocide and/or other kind) has not taken place -- USSR (for course!), China, North Korea, Cuba, Cambodia..

Of course, a regime that tries to reach for the ideal and fails is even worse, than something like Capitalism, which can be mended into Communism by the simple vote (and some vote-manipulations). Fascism being "Communism-lite", it deserves nothing but scorn from the true Progressive Statists (Prostatists[size=-3]TM[/size]). We shall spit and defecate on its rotting corpse as we march happily by towards the true ideal — the Communism! There is not much left to march for...

Hail Che!

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From the People's Glossary:

Hitler

Hitler is an important ideological weapon helping us win just about any argument with right-wingers. As such he must be viewed as pure evil at all times. This, of course, creates a philosophical paradox: it is common knowledge that morality is relative and there is no such thing as absolute good and evil. The answer is that Hitler is a necessary exception. If he didn't exist he'd have to be invented. What makes him so evil? It doesn't matter. He's evil, period. You needn't know unless you are an advanced student of the progressive theory. If you are, then you must know that Hitler was also building socialism, only it was for Arians only (National Socialism), in which minorities would slave for the White man. We the progressives want quite the opposite. Hitler's idea of uncompensated labor for The Greater Good™ (labor camps) was very different from our idea of uncompensated labor for The Greater Good™ (labor camps). That's where it gets tricky and any further discussions should only be allowed to Party-approved professors of progressive science.

<br>See more on Hitler here.

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Yes, Red Square, I'm well familiar with this concept of "necessary exception" (I did study the site's dictionary before), but I'm not fully accepting it — perhaps due to this bourgeois concept of "Occam's Razor"... Of all contemporary Fascists, Hitler tried the hardest, but he did not reach the ideal of Communism, and this is something, where the closer you get to the ideal (without reaching it) the more evil you are for trying...

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Glenn Beck interviewed Dr. Thomas Sowell May 27 about disenfranchisement, and asked him whether the U.S. was still a capitalist nation. Here's Sowell's answer:

BECK: So let me start with that question — are we are still a capitalist country?
SOWELL: Oh, heavens. Partially.

We're not a socialist country, because the socialists believe in government ownership in the means of production, but the fascists believe that the government should have private ownership and the politicians should tell people how to run the businesses. So that's the route we seem to be going.

BECK: So what route is that again?

SOWELL: The private people still own the businesses but the politicians tell them what to do.

BECK: Right, but isn't that — I'm trying to remember, that's —

SOWELL: That's fascism.

BECK: Yes, I was going to say, I knew it was a bad one. And I was going to say, I think that's fascism. Yeah. OK. Well you're a crazy lunatic. Why would you say we're going down a fascist road?

SOWELL: Only because we are.

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If this is true, which it is, then fascism is not extreme right-wing politics.

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Commissar_Elliott wrote:If this is true, which it is, then fascism is not extreme right-wing politics.

Well, this much has been known to all, but the busiest (with awareness-raising) prostatists...

{karakter off}

It has been the Big Lie of the American Left, claiming Nazism was "right-wing." Adolf Hitler let Communists (except Jewish Communists) into the Nazi party --before the break with Joe Stalin. Stalin and Hitler had a non-agression pact and Stalin was taken by surprise when the Germans invaded the USSR in 1941.

"Right-wingers" tend to be classic liberals: valuing individual liberty and suspicious of powerful government. A "Right-Wing Extremist" would actually be an anarchist, not a Nazi.

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Yes comrades, I will never forget Hitler's lie and will never side with a fascist again!

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Excuse me while I prepare for the celebration of the 70th anniversary of the 1939 Soviet-Nazi peace treaty.

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The 2009 Soviet-Obama Peace Treaty? Comrade Red Square have you lost your mind!Comrades you have all been in the vodka trunk again! Nothing in my hand, PRESTO:

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Red Square wrote:Excuse me while I prepare for the celebration of the 70th anniversary of the 1939 Soviet-Nazi peace treaty.

Prog off...

When I went to Ordzhonikidse/Vladikavkaz in the summer of 1987 (?), we tagged along with a group of West German tourists on a guided tour of the area. Up until then, I had no idea Nazi Germany had made it that far - hey I was only 14... (this was the furthest of their advance towards the southeast, the goal being the Baku oil fields.) In true Soviet fashion, however, the (government) tour guide took us to all the battlefields to let us know how many Germans were killed at each one of them. After the 3rd one, my dad and his colleague got really mad and left the group. We were there on engineers' visas, so we had a bit more freedom to travel than the tourists.

One of my uncles fought on the eastern front, was captured, and spent a couple of years in Siberia. He never talked about it. All I knew is that his faith sustained him, and he harbored no ill feelings against his captors after the war. My grandfather fought on the western front against the rest of the Allies.

It was cool to have him meet some of the Russian gentlemen who came to visit my dad (on business for the same project for which my dad went to Russia several times.) Again, there were no hard feelings, even though his wife, my grandma had to flee Breslau/Wroclaw from the advancing Soviet troops. It was all water under the bridge.

I know it sounds really corny and Soviet, but russkaya-nemetskaya druzhba (or so, my Russian has become a bit rusty) does have a nice ring to it... especially after the history we share.

Mir.

Really.

Prog on

But only as long as Poland does not attack us again! Wait, we need to liberate the occupied territories of Silesia, Pomerania and East Prussia!

Comrade Obama! Please ask your Dear Friend Premier Ahmadinejad, if he can spare some freedom fighters in our jihad against the Polish oppressors.

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I accidentally stumbled upon a blogthat details Hilter's leftist roots. Lots of curious info.

They even have a rare picture of a Red Army Swastika shoulder patch.

Image <br>However, I must point out an error in its description on the blog. Red Army was formed Feb. 23, 1918. The date on the picture is smudged, but it's probably 1918. The text in Russian details the description of the patch and who it is designed for: Red Army soldiers and commanding officers of the Kalmyk troops. Kalmyksare a small pastoral ethnic group in southern Russia, with their own autonomous region west of the Caspian Sea. They are of Mongolian origin and they are Buddhists. Hence, I believe is the swastika, which is a common Buddhist symbol. In the text, the swastika is called "LYUNGTN" or some such native Kalmyk word in Cyrillic (the text is blurry and those may be characters specific to the Kalmyk language).

I don't know how long these patches were in use, but I've never heard of them until today. Most likely they were destroyed and the memory of them erased once the Nazis attacked the USSR. But I can imagine the bewilderment of the Kalmyks in the Soviet Army during WWII, as they were fighting against a European power bearing their own national symbol, and seeing all kinds of disparaging caricatures of it in official propaganda materials.

As a footnote, the relatively small Caucasus region contains a wild mix of nations and ethnic groups that would be more than enough to fill an entire continent. There are three distinct language families: Indo-European, Caucasian, and Altaic, each of them represented by dozens of smaller language and ethnic groups, all living on different stages of human civilization, from primitive communal formations of early Iron Age to the modern industrial age. Separated by tall mountain ranges, they've always been at war with each other and they don't want to stop (e.g., Chechnya). Dagger is part of everyone's national costume. It's real Middle Earth there - just as fascinating and just as dangerous.

BTW, Lenin was one-quarter Russian, one-quarter Kalmyk, one-quarter German, and one-quarter Jewish. A wild mix, but the Asian features were there. The "one-quarter Jewish" part was one of the most carefully guarded state secrets in the USSR up until the 1990s, when it was leaked into the press. The reasons were probably similar to those why Hitler was mum on his own Jewish ancestry. I wonder if that secret had also been guarded as religiously. Anyone? Granted, the hypocrisy on the both sides was almost farcical.

On a different note, this picture is also fascinating and more to the point of Hitler's socialist roots. Perhaps our German Kameraden on the Cube can provide an exact translation into English.

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The election campaign poster is interesting.

"We the Workers have awoken!" Wir Arbeiter sind erwacht.

I can't read what the guy on the left has in his left hand. The right hand clutches a dagger... The guy in the middle is a jew (diminutive stature, "hook" nose, suit) whispering into the socialists ear - after all, socialists and jews have always collaborated. The list in the socialists hand is addressed to the "Hitler Barons" Again, I can't make out the first line.

Hetze und Verleumdungen = agitation and defamation

Die Bonzen im Speck, das Volk im Dreck =

The bigwigs in the bacon, the People in the dirt.

Bigwigs are of course the rich capitalists and bankers. The reference to bacon is based on the German proverb "wie die Made im Speck" - like a maggot in the bacon, i.e. it's doing really well. They don't have to suffer, while The People lives in dire proverty.

Paragraph 48 of the German constitution of 1919 gives the President virtually totalitarian powers if the Reich (which, until 1933 was a Republic, even though it had the "Reich" title) is threatened, from within or without, including using the armed forces if necessary and suspending all civil rights. (This is virtually based on the role of the Kaiser.)

Hitler used the burning of the Reichstag building to invoke this article.

The bottom reads (the first part in the - I think - beautiful Suetterlin-Cursive)

wir waehlen (we vote)

Nationalsozialisten (national socialists)

Liste 2 (second choice on the ballot)

For which election was this poster? The Nazis didn't have the top spot yet?


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Well, they WERE the National Socialist German Workers' Party... You can see a lot of the socialism part shining through in their propaganda. The cause for misery of course being the jews and the real socialists and bolsheviks.

It must be noted, that the SPD (Social Democrat Party of Germany)'s roots are a lot more radical than what they are today (even if they generally still a bunch of whackjobs.) They were founded during the Second Reich (1871-1918), and one of their goals was to overthrow the monarchy, not exactly the "in" position to hold.

BTW, the Second Reich (the First one being the Holy Roman Empire) was only a monarchy in some respects. More properly would be to call it a Federal Monarchy. The Kaiser was if you will President for Life, with virtually the same rights and responsibilities of the Reichspraesident (as in Hindenburg) during the Weimar Republic as well as the Bundespraesident today, except that the declaration of war piece has been a bit more "diversified" today.

Anyway, the member states did have their say in the democratically Reichstag - Parliament (of course not without some fraud involved, it was, after all, the first attempt) and Reichsrat - Council. Also, the member states were not all monarchies, either. The city states of Bremen and Hamburg had a republican form of government. I could honestly say that there may still be a Second Reich today, if Kaiser Frederick III had lived a while longer. He was liberal (in the good sense) and had a servant's heart rather than a monarch's. Also, he would not have kicked Otto von Bismarck out. Of course, we all know what happened in 1914, 1918, 1933, 1939 and 1945... Now back to the topic, the SPD hat a major transformation in the post WWII years, they essentially parted with their radical ways. Today, especially in some rural, protestant regions, the SPD is just as "conservative" as the CDU.

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As they say, history doesn't recognize the subjunctive mood. But since we're talking about ifs simply for amusement purposes...

If the revolutionary terrorists in Russia (who called their group "The People's Will") hadn't killed Czar Alexander II in 1881 (after three prior assassination attempts), October Revolution may not have happened. Alexander II was a great reformer who abolished serfdom one year before the US abolished slavery. His reforms were progressive (in the original meaning of the word) but there probably is a certain threashhold in history when real progress becomes supplanted by the phony "progressivism" as we see today in the US. The more liberties the Russian citizens received, the more audacious the knucklehead revolutionaries would become, demanding the impossible, bombing and shooting anyone they didn't like.

Speaking of which, I never believed that electing Obama would end racial and other grievance mongering. According to what happened in Russia then, it's only going to get worse. The leftist knuckleheads are already beginning to hate Obama for not being as radical as they are.

Going back to Alexander II, if his democratic and economic reforms were to continue and to take root, Russia may have been much less radical politically a couple of decades later, when communists used Nicholas II's stupidity and weakness to begin spreading like cancer and later metastasizing throughout the rest of the world.

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Of course history relies on facts (depending on who you ask), but every so often you do wonder, "what if?"

Progs have to come up with new stuff all the time, as otherwise they won't have any cause for fundraising. You will never hear a prog saying "mission accomplished!" Instead, they will fight for new causes.

Back in the 80's the Greens were all the rage in Germany. The mainstream parties cleaned up the air from admittedly harmful substances emitted from tailpipes by mandating catalytic converters. The air has gotten cleaner, despite more vehicles and more driving. Are they celebrating today? No, instead they came up with another cause. The same goes for scientists. Many get funding from the gubmint. Of course they will tell the gubmint what it wants to hear, in order to get more funding. Just like they have separation of church and state (in that the state must not interfere in church matters), so should there be a separation of science and state. Pres. Eisenhower warned of the military-industrial complex, and for good reason. Is today's equivalent the science-government complex?

Just follow the money.

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Genosse Pieck wrote: ... the German proverb "wie die Made im Speck" - like a maggot in the bacon, i.e. it's doing really well...

This sheds new etymological light on the origins of "Made Progressive."

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Is this a medal? Eagle, swastika, and hammer & sickle together... I understand "Tag der Arbeit" as "Day of Labor". Is this something like "Hero of Socialist Labor?"

(And who's the guy with the Afro? Beethoven? LOL).

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Here's another angle on the comparison between fascism and communism. Richard and Sabina Wurmbrand are not widely known outside of those who follow the persecuted church, but they were Romanian Christians who were ethnically Jewish. Richard, who spoke several languages and was familiar with a wide range of philosophers and literature, was imprisoned, isolated, and tortured for a total of 14 years for his work in the underground church in Romania. Sabina was later sentenced for five years to prison and to a labor camp on the Danube River where she worked in near starvation conditions. The Wurmbrands suffered during both the Nazi occupation of Romania, and the "liberation" of Romania by Soviet forces. Sabina, who lost much of her family in the Holocaust, said the Nazi occupation was preparation for communist rule.

Her book, The Pastor's Wife, details the story of her and her husband's conversion, Richard's refusal to submit his faith to the communist government, the Soviet occupation and the communist takeover (amidst promises poo-poohing fears of just such a thing), how they hid Nazi soldiers from the Soviets while simultaneously evangelizing Russian soldiers, and the trial of their faith as they went through their different imprisonments.
<br>When finally ransomed to the west, they founded Christ to the Communist World, which later became today's Voice of the Martyrs. VOM, which is advertised on Rush's website, has a free newsletter with a good bit of information about the persecution of Christians today, especially in communist and Muslim countries. Just as a heads up, I warn you that reading this material may make you skeptical of Islam's widely reputed religious tolerance and of communism's claim to provide justice for the downtrodden.

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Red Square wrote:Is this a medal? Eagle, swastika, and hammer & sickle together... I understand "Tag der Arbeit" as "Day of Labor". Is this something like "Hero of Socialist Labor?"

(And who's the guy with the Afro? Beethoven? LOL).

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Maybe we should observe Labor Day, or Earth Day, or both each year with this image.

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Red Square wrote:Is this a medal? Eagle, swastika, and hammer & sickle together... I understand "Tag der Arbeit" as "Day of Labor". Is this something like "Hero of Socialist Labor?"

(And who's the guy with the Afro? Beethoven? LOL).

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Tag der Arbeit is the socialist Labor Day - May 1st. It's still celebrated in Germany (and other western European countries) to this day. No clue who the guy with the 'fro is, but it looks like a very socialist nomenclatura hairstyle, if you ask me... kinda like Brezhnev. But then Konrad Adenauer, the first chancellor of the FRG sported the same hairstyle.

Not sure if this an actual medal or what, but "Gedenkmuenzen" (memorial coins) with no value were always minted in Germany to commemorate something or other. Kinda like the Obama plates, chia-pets (what about a che-pet?), etc...

Blogunov -

thank you for bringing the Wurmbrandts to our attention. I have definitely heard of the VOM, but did not know its origins. My dad in his day did his own thing to spread Christianity in the Soviet Union by smuggling Russian Bibles into the USSR. Don't ask me how they were never uncovered. Miracles, I guess. But he always kept his personal German Bible on top of the suitcase he hid them in, and of course he would be questioned about it. "For personal use" and it being in a foreign language was always enough for the customs commissars. Or maybe they were just temporarily blinded.



 
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