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It's not as if it hadn't been done before. President Abraham Lincoln famously suspended Habeas Corpus during the so-called "Civil War." 

Fun fact: neither Lincoln nor Congress declared war on the Confederate States. Lincoln only declared a resolution to restore the laws of the USA to the successionist States of the CSA. To declare war on the CSA would have been a recognition of its sovereignty and the USA offered no such recognition.

There are many interesting fun facts about our Civil War, aren't there? Lincoln actually suspended a fair amount of our God-given rights to get those Southerners to see reason.

Not sure how I feel about that.

Panem Et Circenses wrote: ↑

5/13/2025, 8:39 am

There are many interesting fun facts about our Civil War, aren't there? Lincoln actually suspended a fair amount of our God-given rights to get those Southerners to see reason.

Not sure how I feel about that.

As Comrade Red Salmon often says, "I feel think..." It's not a matter of feeling or intuition.

Lincoln first issued Presidential Proclamation 94, suspending Writ of Habeas Corpus in 1862. He passed the Congressional Habeas Corpus Suspension Act in 1863, so it became the law until the conflict was over.

I know of no other Constitutional rights Lincoln and Congress suspended during the Democrat War to Preserve Chattel Slavery.

He shut down newspapers (freedom of the press), kicked people out of their houses (right to due process), and curtailed the rights to peaceably assemble. These were only done in very specific areas, true, but there was no guarantee those rights would be given back or that they couldn't have been expanded to other areas if deemed ... necessary. Also, I have numerous issues with his 'emancipation proclamation.'

As we all know, history is full of examples of peoples giving up their rights "temporarily" under stressful conditions only to find they are never returned. Dangerous, dangerous stuff to meddle with.

He did have a really cool look, though - the hat & beard, I mean.

https://www.enotes.com/topics/abraham-l ... ion-578639

The argument has even been made that Lincoln was a dictator.  That argument hinges mostly on whether states have the right to secede.

https://reformedhope.com/2019/08/18/the ... -dictator/

Panem Et Circenses wrote: ↑

5/13/2025, 11:34 am

https://www.enotes.com/topics/abraham-l ... ion-578639

Weak sauce with laced with falsehoods. 

The author isn't a historian but an elementary school English teacher presenting typical liberal academic junk history rather than facts.

There is no Constitutional right to secession, just Jefferson Davis's claim to one through the ambiguous 10th Amendment. 

The right to declare war rests with Congress. Neither Lincoln nor Congress declared war. Both took what might be better described as a police action.

The Confederate secession violated U.S.Constitutional law, and the Union did not declare war because it did not recognize the CSA's claim to sovereignty; rather, the Union asserted power to rectify unlawful acts by U.S. citizens.

Blockades of southern ports were not an act of war because the CSA was not a sovereign state. Only a sovereign state can declare a blockade an act of war.  

Some temporary suspension of civil liberties are to be expected in times of crisis, especially when acts of sabotage and treason were taking place. 

Sorry I deviated from topic with a bit of history. This thread is about the GTFO meme template and should continue along that track.

     
 

Panem Et Circenses wrote: ↑

5/13/2025, 11:51 am

The argument has even been made that Lincoln was a dictator.  That argument hinges mostly on whether states have the right to secede.

https://reformedhope.com/2019/08/18/the ... -dictator/

For over three decades it's been fashionable for leftist academics to disparage, deconstruct and vilify the "old White men" who founded this country or successfully helped it endure.

It's been the academic equivalent of priests calculating how many angels (or devils) could dance on the head of a pin. Never mind that nobody could see them, or if they were real, or that it didn't matter—they argued and calculated away beyond reason.

The result is generations of radicalized, know-nothing students.  
 

Again, the whole thing rests on whether states have the right to secede from the Union, which is not clear in the Constitution.

If Alberta tries to secede like they're threatening, we could see a Canadian Civil War, eh? With the Canadian reputation of politeness, I'm sure that would be a very civil war.

I agree with you about a great many things, but rather than continue to derail your post, we'll agree to disagree on this one methinks.

Panem Et Circenses wrote: ↑

5/13/2025, 2:14 pm

Again, the whole thing rests on whether states have the right to secede from the Union, which is not clear in the Constitution.

It is clear: no right or provision to secede exists in the Constitution. The Left tries desperately to use the 10th Amendment to claim all sorts of unenumerated rights, as Jefferson Davis did without success.
 

Most Equally Esteemed Comrades,

I think feel I must muddy the waters and encourage the entropy of this thread.

For a concrete example of Union civil rights trampling, check out Order 11 issued by General Thomas Ewing Jr.  There are no antebellum houses outside the exempted urban areas in the four counties affected.  It is rumored, and depicted in several famous paintings, that the wagon trains filled with looted property headed to Kansas were miles long.  Oddly enough, most of the locally recruited soldiers in Western Missouri were from Kansas.  Seems like there might be a connection.  I don’t care how cute their mascot is or how well they play basketball.  I don’t trust Jayhawkers.  

I could get into the politics of why General Ewing was posted to Missouri, but that would only further deviate from the intended theme of this thread. 

I will now GTFO of this thread and allow things to settle down.  

Red Salmon

 

Most Equally Esteemed Comrades,

President Abraham Lincoln didn't know about General Ewing's Order #11 for weeks.  He was a bit preoccupied with restoring the USSA.  According to records I've seen, President Lincoln was mortified by Order #11.  The fact that General Ewing was posted to Western Missouri is a testament to the wisdom of President Lincoln.  General Ewing was a Democrat.  That Robert E Lee turned down command of the Army of the Potomac cast the light of political unreliability on Democrat Officers.  While the Union Army needed trained commanders for the conflict, there was no need to turn a potential turncoat loose with a military force in the vicinity of Washington DC.  Send them as far West as possible, but not to the Territories.  My thought feelings about dredging up Order #11 was to show that the Union Army was not always angelic.  Now I'm not sure why I wanted to make that point. 

SO....


Red Salmon

Most Equally Esteemed Comrade Colonel,

Is this better?


Red Salmon

Red Salmon wrote: ↑

5/14/2025, 11:37 am

President Abraham Lincoln didn't know about General Ewing's Order #11 for weeks.  He was a bit preoccupied with restoring the USSA.

My thought feelings about dredging up Order #11 was to show that the Union Army was not always angelic.  Now I'm not sure why I wanted to make that point

That we know, but I never said it was. My concentration was on Lincoln's actions, not that of his subordinates.
 

Red Salmon wrote: ↑

5/14/2025, 11:47 am

Most Equally Esteemed Comrade Colonel,

Is this better?

It's a beautiful thing.