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Liberals, Conservatives, and Russia: the Drama Triangle

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By Oleg Atbashian
First published in the American Thinker

 
With friends like liberal media, who needs enemies? Their virtue signaling and political spin over Ukraine is so revolting that if I didn't know better, I'd turn against Ukraine like so many conservative commentators already have. But having lived in both Russia and Ukraine, I know better.
 
Just as revolting is seeing previously trusted conservative sites and TV hosts defending Russia and tarring Ukraine. Children act like that when adults apply reverse psychology. What's their excuse? I'm not naming names because I'd like to believe they are acting in good faith and are simply misguided by crafty spinners.
 
Reading Russian and Ukrainian sources in the original, I know exactly who in this war is spinning lies and who is fighting for truth and freedom. Believe me, not every enemy of the liberal media is our ally or deserves sympathy. Sometimes the enemy of our enemy is an even bigger enemy.
 
I'm familiar with Russian propaganda well enough to recognize a scripted narrative. Some conservative hosts may not praise Putin's ideas directly, but they favor guests and authors who deliver the influence operation script, blaming the victims and diminishing their suffering. This looks just as bad as pointing a camera at the scene of a violent rape while mocking the victim's screaming, making fun of her clothes, saying that she deserves it, and suggesting that she stop faking pain and enjoy the inevitable.
 
With the media presenting such irreconcilable viewpoints, American consumers of news have split in two warring factions. But the accusations and arguments with which they hit each other over the head are false on either side.
 
False argument #1: Anyone who supports Ukraine wants American soldiers to die in foreign lands, or is clamoring for WW3.
 
I support Ukraine but I never called for Americans to risk their lives in Ukraine. There are many ways of supporting an ally without sending an army. The three weeks of fighting have shown Ukraine is quite capable of defending itself, given enough guns and ammo.
 
False argument #2: Anyone who questions the Democrats' motives as related to this war is a Putin troll and a traitor.
 
I'll be the first to point out that Biden and the rest of the Obama team had turned Ukraine into a feeding trough with their corrupt schemes. But that has little to do with Putin's paranoia and his megalomaniacal motives to invade Ukraine and the rest of the former Soviet territories, redefining established borders, encouraging other known bad actors, and setting a precedent that may indeed start WW3.
 
It's time we asked, cui bono? Who benefits from a divided America fighting over Putin’s Russia? The answer is Putin’s Russia.
 
Russian influence operations, or “active measures,” have been targeting the U.S. for decades, aiming to demoralize Americans and make them hate one another. Judging by the state of affairs today, Russian operations have been quite effective.
 
The KGB was dissolved in the early 1990s, followed by a short respite. Then Putin, a former KGB colonel, restarted the influence game and enhanced it with digital gadgets. This time, in addition to the traditional leftist radicals, he started targeting conservatives as potential agents of influence. 

Russian propaganda is deeply embedded and is sophisticated enough to appear as honest opinions of concerned citizens. But what often betrays it is the narcissistic desire of making everything about Russia.
 
We are either fuming over Russian election interference, or over Russia setting up fake BLM pages on Facebook, or we are being dragged into sympathizing with Russia over its bogus fears of NATO expansion, its "national interests," its "religiosity and spirituality," and so on. In the Soviet days of communist propaganda, any American influencer could get away with it by claiming he was simply a selfless Marxist. But today, when Russia's ideology is chauvinistic nationalism, it's a bit odd for a regular American to be simply a selfless defender of Russia's national interests.
 
While Russia's defenders point out the existence of Ukrainian nationalism, they somehow neglect to mention the unhinged Russian nationalism. The two are not equal. The nationalism of a dominant ethnicity in an empire which aims to subjugate other ethnicities as inferior to the main one, is called chauvinism or supremacism. The nationalism of a smaller ethnicity trying to free its neck from under its “big brother's” boot is called a movement for dignity, freedom, and independence – something American conservatives have always identified with.
 
Contrary to what a section of conservative media claims, Putin is not a Christian knight in shining armor fighting the New World Order. He has his own New World Order in mind, which is spiritually closer to Mordor. One look at Russian society today with its brutal suppression of dissent, government corruption, and state-sponsored brainwashing should give an idea of what he has in store for the rest of the conquered world.
 
Russia may have different faces at different times, but the one we are staring at today - obsessed with the cult of Putin and conspiracy theories - is not Lara from Doctor Zhivago, who never existed, but a manipulative drama queen dragging others into its alcohol-fueled problems and then using the suckers as tools to achieve its soulless goals.
 
Americans shouldn't be codependent in this abusive behavior.
 
A top-level Russian propagandist once bragged that if his agency's methods of psychological manipulation were open and legal, they could easily get a Nobel for inventing it. If I were to guess, at least one of those methods rely in part on the Drama Triangle principle.
 
The Drama Triangle was first described by Stephen Karpman in the 1960s. It is a model of dysfunctional social interactions and illustrates a power game that involves three roles: Victim, Rescuer, and Persecutor, each role represents a common and ineffective response to conflict.
 
[…] Most of us are neurologically programmed to play these three roles, and we consciously or unconsciously choose one role given the particular context.
 
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Internally, on state-owned TV channels, Russian propaganda instills the sense of superiority, entitlement and indignation similar to what an abusive ex-husband feels towards his runaway ex-wife who better love him or else. In this case, the runaway ex-wife is Ukraine.
 
In the messaging designed for Western countries, however, Russia plays the manipulative “poor me” victim. It blames largely imaginary villains and conspiracies for its misfortunes and appeals to the kind, well-meaning but somewhat gullible people of the world (Rescuers) who believe the victim and come to the rescue at the cost of sacrificing their own interests.
 
Playing the role of a noble hero while forgetting about their own problems makes the Rescuers feel good about themselves for a brief time. Instead of working on their own grievances, all they can think of is the victim's grievances, which they get to know in every detail, real or fictional.
 
And just like that, all of a sudden, many American conservatives today have become Russia experts, discussing the finer points of NATO's expansion on Russian borders, Russophobia, Bandera, denazification, the Azov Battalion, special military operations, the genocide of Russians in Donbas, the movements of Slavic tribes in the Middle Ages, the plot by the CIA and State Department to install a puppet regime in Ukraine in 2014, the shooting down of flight MH17 by a Ukrainian missile, and other such nonsense.
 
Those Americans who disagree with the Rescuers about Russia's victimhood are automatically categorized as Persecutors, agents of the Deep State, or of the New World Order. I've been called that on Facebook a few times already. Thanks a lot, Russia!
 
When did this triangle begin? It could already have been in place when the American left opposed the U.S. entering the war in Europe during the Hitler-Stalin friendship pact, but the moment Hitler attacked the USSR they instantly adopted a pro-war “help Russia” stance.
 
Americans used to be split over Russia and its exploits throughout the entire Cold War, including the Vietnam War. Even Barack Obama's mother, a communist nonconformist, met his Kenyan father in a Russian class. She wanted to stick it to the Man, and she did.
 
In those days the liberals were the Rescuers and the conservatives were the Persecutors. In today's game those roles have switched. But Russia has never stopped being the “poor me” victim with a “mysterious soul.”
 
The switch happened during the 2016 presidential elections, when Hillary Clinton accused Donald Trump of colluding with Russia. Before long, Americans became split over the "Russian collusion" conspiracy theory. All we could hear from the media throughout Donald Trump's presidency was “Russia, Russia, Russia.” In the eyes of the media, Republicans became the lovers of Russia and Putin. 
 
The myth of that unnatural love is still alive today among the Democrats. Just the other day former Obama's ambassador to Russia Michael McFaul claimed in an interview to an expat Russian opposition journalist Yulia Latynina that if Trump were president now, he would've just given Ukraine to Putin as a gift of friendship.
 
Today “Russia, Russia, Russia” continues in the form of debates over the recognition of Russia's “geopolitical interests" in formerly Soviet lands. The emotional details of injustice to Russia multiply daily, and we keep arguing about them without stopping to think that maybe most of those details are being made up by Russia just for this very purpose.
 
Nobody enjoys the “Russia, Russia, Russia” noise more than Russia. Russia likes the world to talk about Russia.
 
The current war will surely be followed by another emotional and heart-wrenching development, in which Russia will once again be sobbing and posing as the “poor little me” victim with a mysterious soul, while stepping on the neck of the next casualty in its endless power games.
 
This game won't stop until the Rescuers of the world finally see Russia for what it is - the pathological drama queen. The only way to end this Drama Triangle is to start responding to Russia's phony complaints by telling it to go the way of the Russian warship.

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Excellent essay, Comrade Red Square.

This:
I'm familiar with Russian propaganda well enough to recognize a scripted narrative. Some conservative hosts may not praise Putin's ideas directly, but they favor guests and authors who deliver the influence operation script, blaming the victims and diminishing their suffering. This looks just as bad as pointing a camera at the scene of a violent rape while mocking the victim's screaming, making fun of her clothes, saying that she deserves it, and suggesting that she stop faking pain and enjoy the inevitable.

 reminds me of an article in Bloomberg News.



That's right, comrades. Nobody ever said rape would be fun. Well, nobody except Rolling Stone Magazine.

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Kapitan Kangaroo Kourt wrote:
3/20/2022, 7:28 pm
That's right, comrades. Nobody ever said rape would be fun. Well, nobody except Rolling Stone Magazine.

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Red Square, over here in Texazistan, we mourn the senseless DRAMA inflicted upon Ukraine. Texazistan is the source of an actual Ukrainian Drama Queen - ' We built the labs, now the Russians are coming'   CD-10 Rep, McCaul.  Ukrainian Drama Queen from Texazistan.

https://www.foxnews.com/media/putin-rus ... den-mccaul

 Mean while, Texazistan is invaded by foreign nations.----- yet he ain't sending javelins to defend the people of Texazistan???  Maybe if he armed Texazistan instead of Ukraine, maybe none of this would be happening.

forelocktug,
'pelipsky

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'pelipsky rewrote a Karaoke in solidarity with Red Square's Ukraine, from a Texazistan gulag camp.

McCaul Fraught The Law And Blames Russians

This Drama Triangle of Ukraine ain't happening' with out help.

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I can hardly wait for the next issue of "Poor Me" magazine, I anticipate a full centerfold with the map of Russia!

Also see the 1/4 page ad (subsidized by OPM) for Tractor Barn #2 on page 7...

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My article on the Russian Drama Triangle is front and center on Mark Levine's site right now, and he quoted it at length on his show today. I hope video will follow tomorrow.

https://www.marklevinshow.com/2022/03/2 ... -triangle/

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Oleg! I’m listening to Mark Levin read your recent American Thinker piece on the air at 5:15 MT!
I’m sure you’ve heard about it already. He said about you, “What an intelligent person.” He read almost the whole thing except for the part where you had graphics. Said he doesn’t really know who you are aside from this article but I think someone should let him know. He’d be delighted. I’ll try to get through but I’m sure someone will enlighten him.

Wow, Oleg, that’s so awesome. The article was great, by the way. I'm so excited for you!

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Pamalinsky wrote:
3/21/2022, 10:45 pm
Oleg! I’m listening to Mark Levin read your recent American Thinker piece on the air at 5:15 MT!
I’m sure you’ve heard about it already. He said about you, “What an intelligent person.” He read almost the whole thing except for the part where you had graphics. Said he doesn’t really know who you are aside from this article but I think someone should let him know. He’d be delighted. I’ll try to get through but I’m sure someone will enlighten him.

Wow, Oleg, that’s so awesome. The article was great, by the way. I'm so excited for you!
Just wanted to mention: My husband loved your article too. :lol:

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Pamalinsky wrote:
3/21/2022, 10:45 pm
Oleg! I’m listening to Mark Levin read your recent American Thinker piece on the air at 5:15 MT!
I’m sure you’ve heard about it already. He said about you, “What an intelligent person.” He read almost the whole thing except for the part where you had graphics. Said he doesn’t really know who you are aside from this article but I think someone should let him know. He’d be delighted. I’ll try to get through but I’m sure someone will enlighten him.

Wow, Oleg, that’s so awesome. The article was great, by the way. I'm so excited for you!
Comrade Square:  I signed in just now to tell you the same thing.  Thanks, Pamalinsky, for doing this before I got to it.

Hopefully, Mark Levin will soon know all about who "Oleg Atbashian" is.
 

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Boris and Natasha are the latest victims of Ukraine's move to ban fringe pro-Russian parties.

https://www.axios.com/ukraine-ban-polit ... 0fd5f.html

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Since Russian propaganda continues to be channeled by some conservatives on Twitter, who go as far as compare Zelensky to Hitler. I had to respond to that. It was basically along these lines.

Russia invaded on the premise that Ukraine was under a Nazi regime and it needed to be liberated and denazified. Now we find out that the pre-invasion Ukraine had a broad range of fringe political parties, many of them socialist and some pro-Russian, likely set up by the Kremlin and in Russia's pocket. The media channels are likewise owned and run by different opposing political forces. As a result, political debates in the media and on public forums have been fierce and rather brutal towards the ruling party and the president. What Hitler allows that to happen?

There's a difference between peace and war. We can't apply the same ethics to both. During WW2 the US banned of German pro-Nazi media and organizations that were spreading Nazi propaganda and advocating on Hitler's behalf. And so did all the other Western nations of the ant-Nazi coalition. That was the right thing to do, because allowing the enemy agents to do their work would be suicidal and insane. The same standards apply in Ukraine today. Russia has been actively embedding its agents in Ukraine over the years. Suspending 11 socialist and pro-Russian mini-parties spreading the enemy propaganda and disinformation during the war is quite reasonable. When the war is over, they can return to the peacetime standards of free speech and free debate Ukraine has had prior to the invasion.

Most importantly...

It's curious how the news of this measure has spread very fast, but somehow a much scarier news from Russia is nowhere to be found in the English-language media. Namely, that's a rabidly fascist ant-Western thinker and strategist who has influenced Putin's worldview resulting in today's war, has been appointed the general director of Russia's largest state-owned TV Channel One. His name is Alexander Dugin and this appointment should scare the living crap out of anyone familiar with Dugin's writings and ideas. His main passion is information warfare, he rejects the existence of facts and objective reality, he considers free speech and individual rights a harmful Western invention, and he has already announced that he will fire any remaining "traitors" from Channel One, will personally interview everyone who works there, and will fill any resulting openings with members of his Eurasian Youth Union, the Russian version of German Hitlerjugend.

So now Russia has a reincarnated Goebbels running its state-owned TV propaganda, but let's talk about the poor fringe socialists in Ukraine.

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Ya know, Comrade Red, why don't you just find a way to call Mark Levin (you know so many people who know him or you may know them/him yourself): His call number, for example. You'll have to get through his call screener who might actually be thrilled that you called. I know I would be.

I can just imagine his delight when he finds you have called in response to his use of your wonderful article. Actually, to be fair, he has a show to produce and, though he would like to meet with you, he has to move on.

We both know he can just simply Google you I know and get a fairly accurate account of your activities. I did it and and saw a virtual cornicopia of Oleg Atbashian info.

Please forgive me if I have crossed the line. If I have, it's from the heart.

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Red Square wrote:
3/24/2022, 3:16 pm


Most importantly...

It's curious how the news of this measure has spread very fast, but somehow a much scarier news from Russia is nowhere to be found in the English-language media. Namely, that's a rabidly fascist ant-Western thinker and strategist who has influenced Putin's worldview resulting in today's war, has been appointed the general director of Russia's largest state-owned TV Channel One. His name is Alexander Dugin and this appointment should scare the living crap out of anyone familiar with Dugin's writings and ideas. His main passion is information warfare, he rejects the existence of facts and objective reality, he considers free speech and individual rights a harmful Western invention, and he has already announced that he will fire any remaining "traitors" from Channel One, will personally interview everyone who works there, and will fill any resulting openings with members of his Eurasian Youth Union, the Russian version of German Hitlerjugend.

So now Russia has a reincarnated Goebbels running its state-owned TV propaganda, but let's talk about the poor fringe socialists in Ukraine.

Alexander Dugan has plenty of fellow philosophical travelers in US. One is hoping to be confirmed as new Supreme Court Judge.

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Free speech in Russia: Students reported their English teacher who opposed Russian invasion in Ukraine. School 6, Korsakov, Sakhalin. Students filmed Marina Dubrova and showed the video to their parents. She was detained, found guilty & fined 30,000 rubles

Pavlik Morozov lives.

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VIDEO: Mark Levine reads my article, "Liberals, Conservatives, and Russia: the Drama Triangle" - an excerpt with illustrations added for context.

He says about me, "What an intelligent person." I sure fooled him!



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Red Square wrote:
3/25/2022, 3:16 pm
VIDEO: Mark Levine reads my article, "Liberals, Conservatives, and Russia: the Drama Triangle" - an excerpt with illustrations added for context.

He says about me, "What an intelligent person." I sure fooled him!”

Wait, MR. Red Square, don’t go Russian psychiatric abuse on ‘pelipsky, here. You are only dealing with a mythical horned lagomorph mind, MR. Red Square. It was you who spoke to group assembled by ‘pelipsky about your book, Shake Down Socialism*, explaining how the whole poverty of Socialism’s System was a systemic bug to be avoided like Covid-19.
‘pelipsky knows, we still caught the whole systemic bug to poverty, anyway. Either that, or the election was stolen by people with sister bunny’s affliction, where her eye would turn in and she couldn’t see what her hands were doing! Don’t laugh! This was serious affliction, comrades!

It wasn’t ‘pelipsky writing the book. No! Red Square was the smart one. We either didn’t believe him, or some eyes turned in on some ballot stuffing, data manipulating,investigating hands couldn’t see what they were doing.

Which means, the same socialists socialists shaking down America, are shaking down Ukraine.Just like Red Square said, because he’s intelligent.

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jackalopelipsky wrote:
3/26/2022, 11:18 am
Red Square wrote:
3/25/2022, 3:16 pm
VIDEO: Mark Levine reads my article, "Liberals, Conservatives, and Russia: the Drama Triangle" - an excerpt with illustrations added for context.

He says about me, "What an intelligent person." I sure fooled him!”

Wait, MR. Red Square, don’t go Russian psychiatric abuse on ‘pelipsky, here. You are only dealing with a mythical horned lagomorph mind, MR. Red Square. It was you who spoke to group assembled by ‘pelipsky about your book, Shake Down Socialism*, explaining how the whole poverty of Socialism’s System was a systemic bug to be avoided like Covid-19.
‘pelipsky knows, we still caught the whole systemic bug to poverty, anyway. Either that, or the election was stolen by people with sister bunny’s affliction, where her eye would turn in and she couldn’t see what her hands were doing! Don’t laugh! This was serious affliction, comrades!

It wasn’t ‘pelipsky writing the book. No! Red Square was the smart one. We either didn’t believe him, or some eyes turned in on some ballot stuffing, data manipulating,investigating hands couldn’t see what they were doing.

Which means, the same socialists socialists shaking down America, are shaking down Ukraine.Just like Red Square said, because he’s intelligent.
F'nay! Sista jaqui! F'nay!  (an abbreviation for fuc*in A**) Good grief, you know what I mean.

My friend, Rush Limbaugh, used to say this all the time in order to avoid claims of cussing abuse etc.
 

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Red Square wrote:
3/25/2022, 3:16 pm
VIDEO: Mark Levine reads my article, "Liberals, Conservatives, and Russia: the Drama Triangle" - an excerpt with illustrations added for context.

He says about me, "What an intelligent person." I sure fooled him!


That was so beautifully played, dear Comrade Red, I find myself speechless. While I was busy being worried, you, sir, were busy takin' care of business. By the Way, I have a friend. His name is Trump. I think the two of might get along. Just sayin'.

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Red Square wrote:
3/21/2022, 11:50 am
Kapitan Kangaroo Kourt wrote:
3/20/2022, 7:28 pm
That's right, comrades. Nobody ever said rape would be fun. Well, nobody except Rolling Stone Magazine.

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Whoopie quote:

"I think it was something else, but I don't believe it was rape-rape."

The most perfect example of a distinction without a difference on the face of the earth. Thanks, Whoopie! You go girl!
 

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jackalopelipsky wrote:
3/25/2022, 6:35 am
Red Square wrote:
3/24/2022, 3:16 pm


Most importantly...

It's curious how the news of this measure has spread very fast, but somehow a much scarier news from Russia is nowhere to be found in the English-language media. Namely, that's a rabidly fascist ant-Western thinker and strategist who has influenced Putin's worldview resulting in today's war, has been appointed the general director of Russia's largest state-owned TV Channel One. His name is Alexander Dugin and this appointment should scare the living crap out of anyone familiar with Dugin's writings and ideas. His main passion is information warfare, he rejects the existence of facts and objective reality, he considers free speech and individual rights a harmful Western invention, and he has already announced that he will fire any remaining "traitors" from Channel One, will personally interview everyone who works there, and will fill any resulting openings with members of his Eurasian Youth Union, the Russian version of German Hitlerjugend.

So now Russia has a reincarnated Goebbels running its state-owned TV propaganda, but let's talk about the poor fringe socialists in Ukraine.

Alexander Dugan has plenty of fellow philosophical travelers in US. One is hoping to be confirmed as new Supreme Court Judge.
And, Sista Pelipsy, it looks like they are actually gonna do the deed. At least that's the way things currently look. Thank you for being so brave and willing to confront such nasty sh*t! by posting the above. I'm with you but find the same people so cowardly. It's hard to love those who, being suicidal, are taking you with them when you don't want to go.

Meanwhile, you go girl!

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Pamalinsky wrote
It's hard to love those who, being suicidal, are taking you with them when you don't want to go.

Remember Ted Cruz asking Judge Brown if he, a Hispanic could decide he’s Chinese?

While Judge Brown could NOT say Ted had the constitution to pull that off in a court of law,
the jury poll is in support of Ted’s case.


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Red Square followup quote

His name is Alexander Dugin and this appointment should scare the living crap out of anyone familiar with Dugin's writings and ideas. His main passion is information warfare, he rejects the existence of facts and objective reality, he considers free speech and individual rights a harmful Western invention, and he has already announced that he will fire any remaining "traitors" from Channel One, will personally interview everyone who works there, and will fill any resulting openings with members of his Eurasian Youth Union, the Russian version of German Hitlerjugend.

By Brown‘S testimony she is an American Dugin.

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Mikhail Lysenkomann wrote:
3/22/2022, 11:55 am
Pamalinsky wrote:
3/21/2022, 10:45 pm
Oleg! I’m listening to Mark Levin read your recent American Thinker piece on the air at 5:15 MT!
I’m sure you’ve heard about it already. He said about you, “What an intelligent person.” He read almost the whole thing except for the part where you had graphics. Said he doesn’t really know who you are aside from this article but I think someone should let him know. He’d be delighted. I’ll try to get through but I’m sure someone will enlighten him.

Wow, Oleg, that’s so awesome. The article was great, by the way. I'm so excited for you!
Comrade Square:  I signed in just now to tell you the same thing.  Thanks, Pamalinsky, for doing this before I got to it.

Hopefully, Mark Levin will soon know all about who "Oleg Atbashian" is.

A BUDDY STYLE FIST BUMP FOR YOU, MIKHAIL LYSENKOMANN!
( I intended to do this before but got distracted. So sorry ML)
I know I will later regret, if not presently, the term "buddy style". It just reeks of "buddyness" and anything associated with it. I think you know what I mean.
 

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Mikhail Lysenkomann wrote:
3/22/2022, 11:55 am
Pamalinsky wrote:
3/21/2022, 10:45 pm
Oleg! I’m listening to Mark Levin read your recent American Thinker piece on the air at 5:15 MT!
I’m sure you’ve heard about it already. He said about you, “What an intelligent person.” He read almost the whole thing except for the part where you had graphics. Said he doesn’t really know who you are aside from this article but I think someone should let him know. He’d be delighted. I’ll try to get through but I’m sure someone will enlighten him.

Wow, Oleg, that’s so awesome. The article was great, by the way. I'm so excited for you!
Comrade Square:  I signed in just now to tell you the same thing.  Thanks, Pamalinsky, for doing this before I got to it.

Hopefully, Mark Levin will soon know all about who "Oleg Atbashian" is.
Hey, Mikhail Lysenkomann, it was a team effort, okay?
Here's a fist-bump for you/us!
 

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Pamalinsky wrote:
4/1/2022, 3:39 pm
I know I will later regret, if not presently, the term "buddy style". It just reeks of "buddyness" and anything associated with it. I think you know what I mean.

Uh, is it anything like Gangnam Style?
 

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This just in...the Cho Bai-Din administration has approved 3 billion dollars of support in equipment and small arms for Ukraine.

Sources credit the administration's foresight for brilliantly prepositioning stockpiles of vehicles, weapons, and supplies in the regional depot at nearby Kandahar airbase months before they were needed.

Our Ukrainian comrades need but to show up and say "we're here for the stuff the Americans left;" Taliban equipment caretakers will say "sign here" and the Ukrainians will instantly have all of the equipment they could possibly need to defeat Putin and his cossack invaders.

Details as they happen, films at eleven.

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Mikhail Lysenkomann wrote:
4/2/2022, 7:42 pm
Pamalinsky wrote:
4/1/2022, 3:39 pm
I know I will later regret, if not presently, the term "buddy style". It just reeks of "buddyness" and anything associated with it. I think you know what I mean.
Uh, is it anything like Gangnam Style?

I think it just might be! (didn't see that one coming) Wouldn't hurt if it was, however. Let's do it!
 

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Pamalinsky wrote:
4/2/2022, 9:26 pm
Mikhail Lysenkomann wrote:
4/2/2022, 7:42 pm
Pamalinsky wrote:
4/1/2022, 3:39 pm
I know I will later regret, if not presently, the term "buddy style". It just reeks of "buddyness" and anything associated with it. I think you know what I mean.
Uh, is it anything like Gangnam Style?
I think it just might be! (didn't see that one coming) Wouldn't hurt if it was, however. Let's do it!

Um, just checked it out. It's nothing like Gangnam Style at all! Nothing like it, in fact. No Gangnam here!
 


 
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