Here's an inspirational quote from the history books:

"America is like a healthy body and its resistance is three fold: its patriotism, its morality, and its spiritual life. If we can undermine these three areas, America will collapse from within."

Joseph Stalin is to be commended on his foresight. At least he didn't live to see liberals bring this strategy to fruition, as the horrifying Obama presidency makes clear is happening.

Here's another Stalin quote that must be dear to the heart of Obama's close, longtime associate Bill Ayers,who went from bombing government buildings and advising us to kill our parents to helping steer the course of our education system:

"Education is a weapon, whose effect depends on who holds it in his hands and at whom it is aimed."

When Obama the "Community Organizer" was training ACORN radicals, who are best known for voter fraud operations, he must have drawn some inspiration from this one — as did Al Gore:

"Those who cast the votes decide nothing. Those who count the votes decide everything."

This one offers the deepest insight into the socialist mentality:

"One death is a tragedy, but a million deaths are a statistic."

They will inevitably apply this insight in America, just as they did in Germany, Russia, China, Cambodia, etc.

Comrade Joe wrote:"One death is a tragedy, but a million deaths are a statistic."

Spending $100 for a meal needs thinking about. Spending a trillion dollars is a statistic.

Failing to report $1000 income on your taxes is a crime. Failing to report millions plus a limo and driver is a Tom Daschle "oops!"

Commissar Theocritus wrote:Spending $100 for a meal needs thinking about. Spending a trillion dollars is a statistic.

You mean, $100 per pound of Japanese steak...don't forget 80 degrees in the White House.

Again, allow me to quote a line from Animal Farm:

"Milk and apples contain substance absolutely necessary to thewell-being of a pig. We pigs are brain works. The whole management andorganization of this farm depended on us. Day and night we are watchingover our well fare. It is for your sake that we drink the milk and eatthese apples. Do you know what happens of we pigs failed in our duty?Jones would come back!"

But, as far as thinking about it goes...there was a time in my more womanizing days when I wouldn't mind shelling out $100 for a meal if it meant I got a good lay later on in the evening. I think we're seeing the same mentality here...only Chairman ZerO uses our money to pay for the meal and screws us repeatedly thereafter.

Oh, sorry, I realized that this is now another "Progressive Proverbs" type thread. Therefore, allow me to contribute:

For the ruling classes, a crime is a crime only if you don't have a "D" in front of your state of representation.

Crime is context.

David Bonior files over 70 ethics charges against Newt Gingrich. All are dismissed out of hand but one. Newt resigns, borrows $300K to pay a fee, and later the IRS says no problem and it's dismissed. Newt looses his career and $300K which he doesn't have.

Remember Our Many Titted Empress's cattle futures?

Tom Daschle makes $1M a year from a law firm and he's not a lawyer.

Remember the $1500 cuff links?

It's the context.

Commissar Theocritus wrote:Crime is context.

David Bonior files over 70 ethics charges against Newt Gingrich. All are dismissed out of hand but one. Newt resigns, borrows $300K to pay a fee, and later the IRS says no problem and it's dismissed. Newt looses his career and $300K which he doesn't have.

It's the context.

Comrade Newt also has a great source of income now that he has been appointed to serve on Faux News, home of exonerated criminals, failed polititions, architects, and evil conservative bloggers like MissHell Milkin. Let's tax the hell out of him.

-OV

Why stop with him? Today I received an email from my dentist, and in it is quoted a prominent politician, Miss Nansky:

Madam speaker Nancy Pelosi wants to put a Windfall Tax on all stock market profits (including Retirement fund, 401K and Mutual Funds! Alas , it is true - all to help the 12 Million Illegal Immigrants and other unemployed Minorities!

This woman is frightening.
She quotes...' We need to work toward the goal of equalizing income, (didn't Marx say something like this), in our country and at the same time limiting the amount the rich can invest.' (I am not rich, are you?)

When asked how these new tax dollars would be spent, she replied:
'We need to raise the standard of living of our poor, unemployed and minorities. For example, we have an estimated 12 million illegal immigrants in our country who need our help along with millions of unemployed minorities. Stock market windfall profit taxes could go a long way to guarantee these people the standard of living they would like to have as 'Americans'. (Read that quote again and again and let it sink in. 'Lower your retirement, give it to others who have not worked as you have for it'.

How I agree. I have four bedrooms in the Rancho de Rio Grande; three baths and two half baths. A wet bar, a courtyard, and a very large front room.

I'm having bunk beds brought in tomorrow. Now if I can just teach them to use the bathrooms...

There's no hole in <i>my</i> heart.

Couldn't find an original source for those quotes and the email is "false" according to a few fact checking sites. Your dentist must be listening to Rush Limbaugh a little too much to get anything done. Just like a conservative pig to make up lies. We'll just send Red Star to take their wallets. Why bother with the process of writing tax laws?!

-OV

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For a time now, I'm convinced our revolution will come in my life time (I'm 19). I just can't say when we will take it to them.

Commissar_Elliott wrote:(off)
For a time now, I'm convinced our revolution will come in my life time (I'm 19). I just can't say when we will take it to them.

Oh Elliott- to be young and 19 again. Of course, at 23, I am still young by conventional standards, but in the age of rationed healthcare I may likely be middle aged. When I was 19 I didn't follow politics as closely as you must today. Why?

At 19 I was in Afghanistan fighting Taliban. Not everyone hated Bush yet. The war was still justified. People supported the Soldiers AND their mission. Men were real men. Women were real women. Small furry creatures from Alpha Centauri were real small furry creatures from Alpha Centauri. I knew someone was watching our beloved country and I always believed we were on the up and up. Since then I fought in Iraq too and have increased my political awareness in indirect proportion to Bush's approval rating. I see that the country I fought for is in the fast lane toward communism and it makes me feel... sick. And stay strapped as you may be right; read the first half of the Oath of Enlistment to see how I feel about things.

Obamissar Vodkavitch,

Comrade, and I mean to use the word as friend and ally, I salute your selfless service for our country, Sir!

Feel safe, for now at least,(read Fairness Doctrine here) that the Cube will be a source of sanity in these "end times" for you, and for all who fervently wish to see this great land of ours survive the onslaught of socialist Marxists determined to forge a new and improved version of Amerikka down the throats of millions.

The disgusting way this current Administration has lied to the people of this country throughout the campaign, and for the last 3 weeks, has opened the eyes of many citizens that were in the dark or did not understand the Demoncrats agenda. The only way to stop them is to turn their tactics back on them. Fortunately, Oleg (Red Square) and others had the foresight to start blogs to begin to counter the liberals, hence the Cube was born.

Don't despair, although I know that it is hard sometimes to not just give up and let them run the country (they are such zealots in their fervor, and perceived righteousness), we can not let them win, permanently, or this country is doomed to the fates that Europe and the Communist blocs now endure.

As I have no inclination to live in such a world, I will gladly offer up myself as a soldier for real democracy, as our wise forefathers did. I am very happy that you are here with likeminded patriots at the Cube, and please, encourage anyone that you think will contribute, or read the truth to join us.

May all our soldiers, and their loved ones, be safe and courageous in the face of the enemy, and may the good Lord watch over their efforts. Again, I say thank you for all you have done for your country, soldier!

I second Che. I often travel to El Paso, Texas, which has a large military base. When I'm eating in a restaurant with soldiers, I try to buy their meals. After all, they're doing things that I don't want to do but which I truly appreciate.

A lot of the moonbats just don't appreciate the true decency of the fly-over country. I saw a documentary of the dreadful Fred Phelps, in Topeka, Kansas. A horrid man. Disbarred twice, keeps his womenfolk in suppression, although as so often happens, the chief woman is the chief oppressor.

They have a website <a href="https://www.godhatesfags.com/">Godhatesfags</a>. They picket the funerals of fallen soldiers who fell, in their view, because America tolerates homosexuals. Truly vile and evil people. They can have their opinion but to picket the funerals of dead soldiers? Just too much.

I saw a documentary from English television. The camera asked a man in a car, a man who flipped them off, what he thought about gays. He didn't like the lifestyle, which is what you'd expect in Topeka. But was repulsed by the Westboro Baptist Church. Not just the picketing but their entire existence. He showed a tolerance which is in all ways good.

The most worrying thing about the left is the politicization of everything. Toleration means putting up with. I tolerate things that I despise. But with the left anything of theirs that you don't french-kiss means that you are a bigot and must be destroyed. This is of course a totalitarian mentality

The so-called bigots in Topeka are more generous than the bien pensant on the left.

And I appreciate our military for protecting them.

This is troubling but I believe that the left has miscalculated. Even though they have accomplished much since I became politically aware in the Carter years (dumbing down education, turning J school into a school for leftist activists, using these activists to promote their agenda and create a political class) I think they misjudged the moderates response to their Scorched Earth legislative agenda. I think their behavior coupled with Obama's idea of bipartisanship is going to turn off the moderates and light a fire under Republicans and conservatives. The problem we really face is that the Fourth Estate has been largely compromised. Most of the sheeple believe what is fed to them by the big three networks, the NYT etc. The left will continue to leverage this advantage, an example of which I witnessed during the Q&A of Obama's 1st press conference. Present was a blogger for the Huffington Post, some Air America radio "personality" and I think at least one other partisan non-journalist. Imagine the uproar if Michele Malkin had been given a seat in George Bush's press pool. The one thing that hinders conservatives, which comprise the base of the Republican party, is that they do not organize or spend any time being "activists". That must change, they must organize, educate and get their message out there. Not just in the media but in their own spheres of influence. When someone mouths one of the left's positions, usually based on a false premise, then we must try and expose that false premise. At least that's my answer, it's got to be a grass roots effort because you won't get much traction in the mainstream media. We have to get people to question and examine what they believe and why they believe it.

[ off ]A main problem is that conservatives are not raging against reality. They have jobs and have lives and are not incensed that the world is ignoring them. Conservatives are not by nature activists.

Commissar Theocritus wrote:

They have a website <a href="https://www.godhatesfags.com/">Godhatesfags</a>. They picket the funerals of fallen soldiers who fell, in their view, because America tolerates homosexuals. Truly vile and evil people. They can have their opinion but to picket the funerals of dead soldiers? Just too much.

That's one group that should be boarded up in their church, then the church should be burned to the ground. How they manage to call themselves christians is beyond my understanding.

Commissar Theocritus wrote:[ off ]A main problem is that conservatives are not raging against reality. They have jobs and have lives and are not incensed that the world is ignoring them. Conservatives are not by nature activists.

I agree. It's been less than 30 days into this Presidency and I am incensed and ready to rage against this headlong rush towards socialism. If someone arranged a "million conservatives" march on DC, I'd be there. I'm self-employed, most recently working 5 & 1/2 days a week but I would make the time.

[ off ]They're merely mean people using Christianity for their purposes. Mean people find a tool and in Kansas, it's Christianity. It's Baptist Christianity. Somewhere else, something else.

Obamissar Vodkavich wrote:

Commissar_Elliott wrote:(off)
For a time now, I'm convinced our revolution will come in my life time (I'm 19). I just can't say when we will take it to them.

Oh Elliott- to be young and 19 again. Of course, at 23, I am still young by conventional standards, but in the age of rationed healthcare I may likely be middle aged. When I was 19 I didn't follow politics as closely as you must today. Why?

At 19 I was in Afghanistan fighting Taliban. Not everyone hated Bush yet. The war was still justified. People supported the Soldiers AND their mission. Men were real men. Women were real women. Small furry creatures from Alpha Centauri were real small furry creatures from Alpha Centauri. I knew someone was watching our beloved country and I always believed we were on the up and up. Since then I fought in Iraq too and have increased my political awareness in indirect proportion to Bush's approval rating. I see that the country I fought for is in the fast lane toward communism and it makes me feel... sick. And stay strapped as you may be right; read the first half of the Oath of Enlistment to see how I feel about things.

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I've always been into politics, no one in my family are politics but I'm not going to say why. Anyway, do you want to know the worst part about 2009 compaired to 2002? Seven, hell, four years (2006) thanks to so many factors, all of them being democratic related, is that is a lifetime. Thanks to things like the media, MTV and people who want to live on Welfare, time (history) has become obsolete, even non-existent. Due to this, these morons forget what happened, and there are clutzoids (the democrat party) who know how to exploit this beyond sanity.

For the few who are smarter than this, we have to suffer their garbage due to one single factor, their numbers, and because it's a (for now) democracy, guess what happens.

I'm starting to get angry, so I'll wrap this up. I sure hope the Revolution of Conservatives comes soon, I really do. This way, we can get on with our lives without governmet interference.

Long live our Revolution
-Commissar_Elliott

Small furry creatures from Alpha Centauri were real small furry creatures from Alpha Centauri.

It was a bold and heady time, when no one was really poor, at least nobody that mattered.

Thank you for standing between me and them.

Ivan Betinov wrote:It was a bold and heady time, when no one was really poor, at least nobody that mattered.

Thank you for standing between me and them.

Comrade Brain in a Jar,

Always nice to encounter a fellow Hitchhiker. And no need to thank me- I delight in the knowledge that I can provide one more layer of flesh between the unwashed masses and the Party Elite. Afterall, it's for The Common Good!!

-OV

For the Comrades with messages of thanks:


No, thank you. Thank you for remembering what happened, remembering that we're out there, and remembering why America is an awesome place. We would never ask for your thanks, nor do we feel we are owed anything, or that we are heroes of any variety, but we do appreciate it none the less.

We also thank you for the things you do show you care. Commissar Theo with his meals, others with their signs, others with their ribbons, and still others in passing at airports with their friendly head-nods or thumbs up. Theo- I recall seeing something about biker gangs that would form barricades around the funerals and rev their engines to drown out the rantings of the sign-bearing idiots from GHF. The truly Progressive thing would be to let people live their own lives, especially if it doesn't interefere with your own, without feeling the need to push your views on someone else. This idea is lost on them. What the hell business is it of theirs what anybody else does in their own home? Tolerance is lost on the Progressives. They bring to the table an equal but opposite reaction to everything they accuse the GOP of doing. To each his own, I say. What I do works for me but I never believe that it should be forced to work for anyone else.

Comrade Che- the Cube is indeed a refuge and I feel right at home here. The Dems are sowing the seeds of their own destruction, and it's reassuring to see, but I agree that we must keep the pressure on because the cost is too great. They're showing their ass, which had been long forgotten in anti-Bush fervor. Luckily, the short-sitedness of the sheeple will likely work, once again, in our favor as it did after Clinton. The grass is always greener on the other side, no? However, should this "natural revolution" prove insufficient, and should the enemies of the Constitution prove it necessary, well... then I'd be happy to call you Comrade in Arms. For now, I find being a warrior of words quite useful. I spread the word of The Cube quite often, particularly when I overhear people complaining about the travesties being exposed by Fox at work. I pass my Cube around as a teaching tool in the hopes that they'll at least take a gander.

Lastly, thanks to EVERYONE at the Cube for keeping Logic and Democracy and Freedom alive.

-OV

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We keep Logos and democracy and freedom alive because we know what the alternative is, and it scares us to death.

Commissar_Elliott wrote:(off)
We keep Logos and democracy and freedom alive because we know what the alternative is, and it scares us to death.

[off] I really am inspired by the ex-comrades who have endured that crap and have lived to tell about it. I'm equally disgusted by the people here in my temporary home of Europe who blindly accept it and even lust after it. If they think their particular brand of socialism could never fail or never turn into another totalitarian regime, they're dead wrong.

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It's because it hasn't been tried by the right people, just ask Hillary about that one.

Vodkavich, let me ask you a question. Is Adopt-a-Platoon of any use? I've been giving them money over the years. I would like to put some cash to good benefit, but I know that a lot of people confuse the charity with the cause. In fact most do.

One of my finest memories is of a time in El Paso in late 2006. I was in Kiki's, a fine TexMex restaurant frequented by people from Fort Bliss. Extremely attractive people because they know who they are, and they're not there to be seen, but to eat. Here I was, fat and happy and free and open and well off and they were going to Iraq possibly to die. I rather envied them the camaraderie, but I knew utterly that I was the beneficiary.

I was reading, as it happened, <i>The Fountainhead</i> for perhaps the 10th time and it was a new book. Things had happened. I was laughing and one young serviceman asked what was so funny. I tried to tell him but a synopsis of Rand is hard without sounding pat.

He said he was going to a school to learn how to handle some new nastiness in IEDs. One other man said that he'd never look at roadside garbage the same way again. And my life, planning the construction of a fancy home, seemed rather plain. Now I know that their lives were very exciting and that the brotherhood was a bond that I can only envy. But still, the difference.

I put $100 on the table to pay for their meal; their eyes widened. Why? Because you are protecting me and I am free and I'm gay and I really like it. We talked for a bit more and then as I was leaving one of the men stood to shake my hand and said, "We fight so people can do what they want." I don't mean to be mawkish but I was quite touched, and still am.

Notice that this is the utterly antithesis of the left: if you don't agree with them, in their <i>rage du jour</i>, you must be destroyed. Here were these evil military men who were going into harm's way who didn't care about me and what they saw as something not worth bothering about?

Let me pose a question. If the military did <i>not</i> fight for freedom, would the coercion-loving left hate them so much?

Is freedom the burden which they cannot bear? For freedom has its own responsibilities, and its own requirements. It imposes a sense of self, of being, that I see the left as hating.

If you look for a common theme in the left, I think that you will find their hatred for accountability. Which is the same thing as self-hatred, if you want to be in charge of your own soul.

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Commissar Theocritus,
As you and I have discussed before freedom is a burden. Why, because your action's consequence(s) will come back in some way. I know you know this, and I also know you know the left's intentions about freedom and slavery.

Now, let me pose this question, they say ignorance is bliss, do you agree with this? For others reading this, ask yourselves this question too.

Here's my opinion's answer to the question. No, ignorance is a prison. A prison you have no idea you are in (The Matrix's (the movie) program if you will). I see it day after day and it drives me nuts to see these happy morons live comfortably in something they either take advantage of, or have no idea of.

This is why I pursue knowledge. This is why my brain hurts to be stupid, I must feed this desire, I must always want more. It sounds selfish, but I must say, it's helped me see the world completely different, and what I've learned has made me a better person.

Yes, ignorance is a prison. But so many people want the security. And a lot of people just want to get up, work and go to bed. Without the bother of thinking about everything.

Elliott, life is a <i>burden</i>. It's hard work, thinking of why you do everything. Is this right? Why? Is this wrong? Why? Or, as I get older (I'm 2/3 dead), is the victory worth the fight?

That last question is I think the answer, as it stands now for me.

I enjoy thinking and I enjoy pondering my existence. For me thinking is a full-body, contact sport. And if I think about something and find I am wrong, then if I am to be whole, I have to admit it, and change or admit that I am frail in not changing, which is surrender.

One of my heroes is my father, who is 83. (At 81 he bought a red, two-seater Cadillac convertible--a Corvette in drag, and he has a girlfriend. Mom died in 1992.) Mom, Dad, brother Mark and I all went to the same high school, and had some of the same teachers. A lot of continuity. Dad was one of the leading jocks in high school. But I did music, and plays, and science fairs (which to be fair I was best at; shitty actor) and Dad always helped me and complimented me and supported me.

And when I came out, he, the award-winning jock, said, "I'm glad you told us. You must feel better."

I know I bang on about this a lot, but I have abstracted myself enough from it to learn.

Dad is receptive to new experience. I gave him a new one, and he thought, "David is my son. He's smart, he's sensible, and I love him. So what information do I need to deal with?"

Dad is not afraid. He was not afraid to learn from me, or from brother Mark, who is not gay but who is, most definitely, a free spirit. Dad is humble enough to know that he doesn't have everything figured out. (He's damned sharp though.)

There is an essential humility in knowing that you don't know it all. Notice the contrast with the left: their constant shrieking puerile rage that the world is not the way that they want it. A lot of it is selfishness but I see a very blinkered people who screech in rage when reality doesn't correspond with their demands. That is by the way a mental illness but that's for another day.

"Ignorance is a prison." Yes. And keep on thinking and questioning. And when your life gets very hard, and I promise you it will, no matter the constraints that your health places on you, consider the truth of everything that you see. And no matter what happens to you, you will have a freedom of your own, one that you earned, that was not granted to you by a governmental fiat, which you, by having used your mind, can use to pronounce yourself your own master.

Che Gourmet wrote:Comrade, and I mean to use the word as friend and ally, I salute your selfless service for our country, Sir!

You have my respect as well, OV. Every listen to the Black Five podcasts? Look up Blackfivemedia.com. I've enjoyed most of their stuff. And you, actually having served, will really appreciate them.

Feel safe, for now at least,(read Fairness Doctrine here) that the Cube will be a source of sanity in these "end times" for you, and for all who fervently wish to see this great land of ours survive the onslaught of socialist Marxists determined to forge a new and improved version of Amerikka down the throats of millions.

The disgusting way this current Administration has lied to the people of this country throughout the campaign, and for the last 3 weeks, has opened the eyes of many citizens that were in the dark or did not understand the Demoncrats agenda. The only way to stop them is to turn their tactics back on them. Fortunately, Oleg (Red Square) and others had the foresight to start blogs to begin to counter the liberals, hence the Cube was born.

That's what bothers me, too. In that impeachforpeace.org site, I've heard all that usual skitt before--Bush lied! Bush lied! But whereas Bush's 'lies' meant the liberation of two countries, and a pretty secure nation for the seven years past 9/11, the lies of the Demorrhoids threaten to undermine our civil liberties and make the world a LESS stable place.

Theo- I recall seeing something about biker gangs that would form barricades around the funerals and rev their engines to drown out the rantings of the sign-bearing idiots from GHF.

You may find this of interest:

https://tinyurl.com/aopkch

Ivan Betinov wrote:

Theo- I recall seeing something about biker gangs that would form barricades around the funerals and rev their engines to drown out the rantings of the sign-bearing idiots from GHF.

You may find this of interest:

https://tinyurl.com/aopkch[/quote]

Comrade Betinov

Thank you for this link. I am shaking and blurry-eyed after reading Rider's account. I know that this really is what it's all about. May God Always Bless America, and May God Bless Sergeant David K. Cooper!

Commissar Theocritus wrote:

Yes, ignorance is a prison. But so many people want the security. And a lot of people just want to get up, work and go to bed. Without the bother of thinking about everything.

Elliott, life is a <i>burden</i>. It's hard work, thinking of why you do everything. Is this right? Why? Is this wrong? Why? Or, as I get older (I'm 2/3 dead), is the victory worth the fight?

That last question is I think the answer, as it stands now for me.

I enjoy thinking and I enjoy pondering my existence. For me thinking is a full-body, contact sport. And if I think about something and find I am wrong, then if I am to be whole, I have to admit it, and change or admit that I am frail in not changing, which is surrender.

One of my heroes is my father, who is 83. (At 81 he bought a red, two-seater Cadillac convertible--a Corvette in drag, and he has a girlfriend. Mom died in 1992.) Mom, Dad, brother Mark and I all went to the same high school, and had some of the same teachers. A lot of continuity. Dad was one of the leading jocks in high school. But I did music, and plays, and science fairs (which to be fair I was best at; shitty actor) and Dad always helped me and complimented me and supported me.

And when I came out, he, the award-winning jock, said, "I'm glad you told us. You must feel better."

I know I bang on about this a lot, but I have abstracted myself enough from it to learn.

Dad is receptive to new experience. I gave him a new one, and he thought, "David is my son. He's smart, he's sensible, and I love him. So what information do I need to deal with?"

Dad is not afraid. He was not afraid to learn from me, or from brother Mark, who is not gay but who is, most definitely, a free spirit. Dad is humble enough to know that he doesn't have everything figured out. (He's damned sharp though.)

There is an essential humility in knowing that you don't know it all. Notice the contrast with the left: their constant shrieking puerile rage that the world is not the way that they want it. A lot of it is selfishness but I see a very blinkered people who screech in rage when reality doesn't correspond with their demands. That is by the way a mental illness but that's for another day.

"Ignorance is a prison." Yes. And keep on thinking and questioning. And when your life gets very hard, and I promise you it will, no matter the constraints that your health places on you, consider the truth of everything that you see. And no matter what happens to you, you will have a freedom of your own, one that you earned, that was not granted to you by a governmental fiat, which you, by having used your mind, can use to pronounce yourself your own master.

I really don't know what to say except this, being free allows everything to happen on your own terms. Youve said this, and we both know it.

Elliott wrote:being free allows everything to happen on your own terms. Youve said this, and we both know it.

Unfortunately bad things happen and there are things that you just can't control.

When I realized that there was nothing that I had to have to survive, I knew I was free.

I too teared up at the story of the soldier's funeral and am eternally grateful, and by no means am I going to lie down for these people, but I am strangely resigned to what seems to be taking place. The problem is not so much the usual suspects--socialists and eco-loons and social engineers and the general thugs that Obama knows--the problem is the servility of the American public.

Comrade Commissar Theocritus-
I know little of Adopt-a-Platoon as I've personally had more experience with AnySoldier, but it seems pretty legit. I know some who, years later, keep in touch with AnySoldier friends. Letters were more important to us than any goodies as nobody ever wants to feel forgotten. Your personal method is equally meaningful and the Kiki's story quite moving. That is indeed the very reason for fighting. Some of my Comrades In Arms forget that or have yet to learn it, but war changes outlook and causes most to understand what America and Freedom are really about. And indeed roadside trash does not look the same. I'd quite like to buy your dinner some day because in your way, you are fighting for America too.

DDR Kamerad-
Very nice site, that Blackfive. Thank you kindly! It actually works at work, too!! If Bush were really the huge liar and mastermind of horror that the left portrays him as, don't you think he could have made it a little more convincing?? And his "fear-mongering?" Wasn't there REALLY something to fear?!

Comrade Betinov-
Thanks for reawakening the Rider thread. That was beautiful!

You guys restore my faith in humanity.

I just now stumbled into this thread for the first time (am having a hard time keeping up with everything lately).

OV, thank you for your brave service. Today you are America's Valentine--rest assured you and every man and woman in uniform are cherished in the hearts of many.

Huggy-huggy!

And thank you Pinkie! I must redistribute The Collective's outpouring of heart to my Comrades still in harm's way. I feel a bit guilty in my current safe assignment in Europe Socialist Utopia while my buddies in my old unit are back downrange again. I know some who are on their 6th combat tour- amazing. It's that old "zero-sum" equation. I've "won" so to speak by being promoted into this nice job and it causes others to lose. I could be there and they could be here. Hmmm... I'm waxing emotional again. My sentiments and salutes to all the Comrades in uniform out there as well!!

Red Jim wrote:

Commissar Theocritus wrote:

They have a website <a href="https://www.godhatesfags.com/">Godhatesfags</a>. They picket the funerals of fallen soldiers who fell, in their view, because America tolerates homosexuals. Truly vile and evil people. They can have their opinion but to picket the funerals of dead soldiers? Just too much.

That's one group that should be boarded up in their church, then the church should be burned to the ground. How they manage to call themselves christians is beyond my understanding.

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Interestingly, the only sinners Christ condemned while on Earth was the hypocrites, that is the Pharisees and Sadduces and their ilk.

Obamissar Vodkavich wrote:

Ivan Betinov wrote:It was a bold and heady time, when no one was really poor, at least nobody that mattered.

Thank you for standing between me and them.

Comrade Brain in a Jar,

Always nice to encounter a fellow Hitchhiker. And no need to thank me- I delight in the knowledge that I can provide one more layer of flesh between the unwashed masses and the Party Elite. Afterall, it's for The Common Good!!

-OV

Indeed, I still have my towel.

Vodkavich wrote:I've "won" so to speak by being promoted into this nice job and it causes others to lose. I could be there and they could be here.

Someone's got to make sure that they have what they need. Isn't there a line, "They also serve who stand and wait?" And this is more than standing and waiting.

I am, I think, a bit jealous of the brotherhood. By definition I have always walked outside everywhere I've gone, looking in. I fish doesn't know the water, they say, but some fish do.

I could have screamed that the world wasn't made for me, and thrown a fit, but that denial of reality is the same mental state as a moonbat, such as the Mime.

I could have moved to a place like San Francisco but that ghetto is not real life--it's a moonbat culture.

As it is I stuck around friends and family who do not try to remake themselves all the time, who do not throw away the rules that we inherited from our ancestors. It's comforting. Also I know that I'm not smart enough to remake the world and that connections are very important.

As an aside, this town of 9500 people is about 90% Mexican. On 9/12 virtually all Mexican flags came down and American ones went up. Nearly every chain-link fence looked like this:


These are people with strong roots to Mexico and the corruption over there, and when it came to a choice, they understood what was important, unlike, I gather, the northwest.

Obamissar Vodkavich wrote:And thank you Pinkie! I must redistribute The Collective's outpouring of heart to my Comrades still in harm's way. I feel a bit guilty in my current safe assignment in Europe Socialist Utopia while my buddies in my old unit are back downrange again. I know some who are on their 6th combat tour- amazing. It's that old "zero-sum" equation. I've "won" so to speak by being promoted into this nice job and it causes others to lose. I could be there and they could be here. Hmmm... I'm waxing emotional again. My sentiments and salutes to all the Comrades in uniform out there as well!!

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I too am grateful OV, for the same reasons and for different ones. (Please pass on my gratitude and deep respect to your comrades in arms) My experiences have had a significant affect on me, the biggest which I will share. My father volunteered twice to serve in Viet Nam (3 years total) after volunteering for active duty via the Connecticut National Guard. Memories of my mother daily checking the San Antonio Light "casualty" list always come back. So many more were lost in SE Asia daily. As I fly a lot, and Atlanta Hartsfield is my home airport, I see a lot of service men heading home and heading out. It is difficult for me to talk, but I do nod and give the thumbs up to these men and women.

When my family and I were waiting to catch a plane home from Anchorage after a week of Alaskan vacation last June, two of the fallen from Iraq were loaded on the plane. I had my children come over and we stood at the window and watched the ceremony surronding the securing of these fallen in the plane's hold. Most caught on to what was going on, but only a few stood up as I had. I am hoping it was more a lack of understanding or apathy and not disrespect, but so it goes.

So I am proud of what they (and you) do and I deeply empathize with thefamilies dealing with the absence of their loved ones and also with those families that lose their loved ones.

And I'm getting really scared. Just today I was driving around and listening to Adams which I'd ripped and put into my iPhone and plugged into my car. Third time through. Read by the author, found on his Mac after his death. Right now they've just ridden the paisley couch to Lord's Cricket Ground two days before the Vogon, led by Protestetnek Vogon Jelz, destroy the earth for a hyperspace bypass and are hitching a ride with Slartibartfast. Since I'm hearing it I have to guess at the spellings.

But is it just barely possible that Adams knew the young Bill Clinton? Zaphod Beeblebrox has to have been pattered on Slick or someone like him. All he wanted was to be admired, and have a really, really good time. When I first read it, in the 80s, that wanker was unknown in the world, but when I found Adams again, on CD, Zaphod nearly makes me drive off the road. All that's missing is Our Many Titted Empress shrieking in the distance.

Oh. The Vogons.

Commissar Theocritus wrote:

Elliott wrote:being free allows everything to happen on your own terms. Youve said this, and we both know it.

Unfortunately bad things happen and there are things that you just can't control.

When I realized that there was nothing that I had to have to survive, I knew I was free.

I too teared up at the story of the soldier's funeral and am eternally grateful, and by no means am I going to lie down for these people, but I am strangely resigned to what seems to be taking place. The problem is not so much the usual suspects--socialists and eco-loons and social engineers and the general thugs that Obama knows--the problem is the servility of the American public.

Well, the problem is, with the bad things happening, is man may control the world, but man can not control time and space.

On the other note, the ignorance of Americans, at least the liberal ones, well, not everyone sees the world like you, like me, like those who think like us, unfortunately. Unfortunately, they would rather follow the leader than be one, and as the old saying goes, if you aren't the leader, the view never changes.

Elliott, so many people have decent instincts and are essentially fine. There are shits, of course, and bastards, but a lot of people merely want to get up, tend to their lives, have a little fun, and go to bed. For them was made <i>American Idol</i>. And thank Lenin not everyone is as cussedly independent as I am for the world would be a bad one were that true. When people press me, I press back, and hard. If everyone were like me, then there would be no employees. Not that there's anything wrong with working for someone, but some people merely do not have that in their makeup.

If these people are not demagoged by, say a Clinton or His O'liness, then things work out just fine. They are the people you deal with, who make things go. But a lot of them just don't want the bother of analyzing everything. And some just can't. And again, nothing wrong with that.

The problem is when a demagogue comes along. Athens forced Socrates to take his life; and let's remember other demagogues: Savonarola, Mussolini, Hitler, Lenin. And his O'liness.

I am not saying that BHO is in the company of those people, or at least the last three. But all of them have used mankind's willingness to want to believe in the absence of evidence for their own power.

It gets back, really, to Ayn Rand. One of her characters, Ellsworth Toohey, the villain in <i>The Fountainhead</i>, tells in the denouement that if a profit comes to you and says, in effect, think for yourself, you scream your fool heads off and call him a selfish monster. But if a prophet comes and tells you renounce, renounce, you will.

Reagan was not a demagogue because he preached self-reliance and getting government smaller. That's what made him unique, and so beloved, at least to me. The others, including His O'liness, told you to renounce for the sake of the Common Good(tm). And The Common Good(tm) is not Good Company.

This just goes back to my idea of "Most philosophies will say 'moderation'". All the thinkers like us must be balanced by sheep, all the liberals must be balanced by conservatives (if you can believe that now a days) etc.

I suppose the demagogues know when and how to rally people. Hitler did it when the depression hit Germany, i.e. I'll get us out of it. Obama did it with the softening of the Republicans by the Democrats, "Bush's reign" "Yes we can't" and "CHope".I suppose once again, fear is the ultimate weapon against humanity, because they would make decisions they normally wouldn't make on a sane mind. But I'm speaking for many when the many are different in many ways.

One of the tools that a demagogue like Obama uses is calls to unity. One of the things that was off-putting about some of the Clintonoids was their obvious feeling of being smarter than other people. A lot of them were bright but it put people off. And one of the problems with Reagan's last term was some of the young women who got so full of themselves that others couldn't brook them.

Now I'm the last person who can chide others for being full of themselves but I do try to keep it in, lest I, or people like me, be mocked.

Unity is a funny tool to be used by a demagogue, a leader, or a scam artist. While we know it's a good thing to have unity in an organization which actually does some good, say the military, it's also a fantastic tool to use on those who want to belong, at least feel it anyway.

Obama was a fabulous example of using unity, and look what happened to him.

Commissar Theocritus wrote:

Vodkavich wrote:I've "won" so to speak by being promoted into this nice job and it causes others to lose. I could be there and they could be here.

Someone's got to make sure that they have what they need. Isn't there a line, "They also serve who stand and wait?" And this is more than standing and waiting.

I am, I think, a bit jealous of the brotherhood. By definition I have always walked outside everywhere I've gone, looking in. I fish doesn't know the water, they say, but some fish do.

I could have screamed that the world wasn't made for me, and thrown a fit, but that denial of reality is the same mental state as a moonbat, such as the Mime.

I could have moved to a place like San Francisco but that ghetto is not real life--it's a moonbat culture.

As it is I stuck around friends and family who do not try to remake themselves all the time, who do not throw away the rules that we inherited from our ancestors. It's comforting. Also I know that I'm not smart enough to remake the world and that connections are very important.

As an aside, this town of 9500 people is about 90% Mexican. On 9/12 virtually all Mexican flags came down and American ones went up. Nearly every chain-link fence looked like this:


These are people with strong roots to Mexico and the corruption over there, and when it came to a choice, they understood what was important, unlike, I gather, the northwest.

You're right about the standing and waiting- and the warfighter does need support from the rear echelons indeed.

I'm inspired by your commitment to being who you are whether others like it or not. I was raised by two women, so I know a little about the subject. Glad to hear your folks accepted you, however. One of my mothers wasn't so lucky. Some of us truly are individuals and the feeling of outsiderness can be strong at times. It's at those times that I remind myself how nice it is to NOT be like everyone else and that being accepted by "them" is not worth giving up anything that I am. Rand helps with this as well...

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I too am grateful OV, for the same reasons and for different ones. (Please pass on my gratitude and deep respect to your comrades in arms) My experiences have had a significant affect on me, the biggest which I will share. My father volunteered twice to serve in Viet Nam (3 years total) after volunteering for active duty via the Connecticut National Guard. Memories of my mother daily checking the San Antonio Light "casualty" list always come back. So many more were lost in SE Asia daily. As I fly a lot, and Atlanta Hartsfield is my home airport, I see a lot of service men heading home and heading out. It is difficult for me to talk, but I do nod and give the thumbs up to these men and women.

When my family and I were waiting to catch a plane home from Anchorage after a week of Alaskan vacation last June, two of the fallen from Iraq were loaded on the plane. I had my children come over and we stood at the window and watched the ceremony surronding the securing of these fallen in the plane's hold. Most caught on to what was going on, but only a few stood up as I had. I am hoping it was more a lack of understanding or apathy and not disrespect, but so it goes.

So I am proud of what they (and you) do and I deeply empathize with thefamilies dealing with the absence of their loved ones and also with those families that lose their loved ones.

Thank you for sharing your story, Reiuxcat. I cannot imagine the constant fear and worry of the family members back home- especially before the days of internet and VTC and such. I wonder if that would not be harder than what the service members face- they're just doing their jobs while the family members must try to hold together a life in the face of uncertainty. Anything we're doing now pales in comparison to what the veterans of previous wars were up against, and I have the deepest respect for their sacrifices. Thanks for your father!

Nods and thumbs up are worth more than you'd think! They're a reminder that people remember and care. There was some movement for a "sign of thanks" or something like that to address the issue of people on both sides of the uniform not knowing how or what to say but wanting to share their feelings. I've never seen such sincerity than I have in the people who say thanks. It causes many to step back and wonder if they're worthy of such profound emotion. We are, after all, only doing our jobs- or so it seems to us. I sometimes feel unworthy of such praise and that "you're welcome" seals the other side of the envelope and implies that the thanks was somehow mandatory, expected, or owed. Then I get over myself and let the person know how much their gratitude means and give my own thanks. See the beauty of the simplicity of the nod?

Thank you as well for rising by the window and sharing with your children the reality of war. The most painful thing I've ever experienced was a ramp ceremony. I had, sadly, been to many ramp ceremonies (the traditional slow march of the transport box from a truck to the back of a waiting aircraft- formations of troops flank the path and render the hand salute as 10-ish soldiers carry the flag-draped box by with inching footsteps) and all were sobering and painful. The worst was when I stood for 45 minutes at the position of present arms as I watched 14 of our finest carried by one at a time. It was the single worst day we'd had in my unit and one was a close friend. These things are even more painful than the memorial ceremony a few days later because at least then we share humorous and grand memories of our fallen. Damnit Derek! Now how am I supposed to get my pen back! Ah, but I digress. In the effort to hide the visual record of the deaths in the interest of shoring up already declining public opinion, I feared that my true Comrades were being moved as baggage, but it's great to hear they are still shown dignity by both the military escorting them as well as those who care about what they are witnessing.

Extra cat nip rations for you, Comrade.
-OV

Commissar_Elliott wrote:Unity is a funny tool to be used by a demagogue, a leader, or a scam artist. While we know it's a good thing to have unity in an organization which actually does some good, say the military, it's also a fantastic tool to use on those who want to belong, at least feel it anyway.



Obama was a fabulous example of using unity, and look what happened to him.

Comrade Commissar-

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It almost makes me feel bad for him- ALMOST! The media made more outrageous claims than he ever did. Now it's our only hope for him being a 1-termer as it's IMPOSSIBLE for him to live up to the savior-like image that was created for him. He didn't exactly do anything to stop it either; who knows how complicit he is in it. Tacit support is still support and I deem inaction to be tacit support. Oh well- he who lives by the sword must die by it.

Oh, and Theo- Zaphod ≈ Clinton indeed. It would explain the whole "two heads/3 arms" thing quite nicely

-OV

I think that His O'liness believes his own bullshit. His ego is such that he's entirely willing to be elevated to any position that people hungry for some sort of secular salvation will take him. Watch documentaries on cults. It's frightening.

Laika thinks that O is scared shitless, and Laika has had governmental experience and says he knows the look. Remember how the Clinton White House was always best in campaign mode and worst in governing mode? I saw a Senator musing about Obama's shock to find that huge Stimulus Bill placed on his desk. The reporter asked, "But he was a Senator. Didn't he know how it was done?"

"He was running for President from the first day." In other words, he's never done any governing. So with his huge ego and his lack of experience he'll be an easy mark for the sharks and barracudas.

Vodkavich, are your mothers (pardon the horrid word) Conservatives?

Commissar Theocritus wrote:I think that His O'liness believes his own bullshit. His ego is such that he's entirely willing to be elevated to any position that people hungry for some sort of secular salvation will take him. Watch documentaries on cults. It's frightening.

Laika thinks that O is scared shitless, and Laika has had governmental experience and says he knows the look. Remember how the Clinton White House was always best in campaign mode and worst in governing mode? I saw a Senator musing about Obama's shock to find that huge Stimulus Bill placed on his desk. The reporter asked, "But he was a Senator. Didn't he know how it was done?"

"He was running for President from the first day." In other words, he's never done any governing. So with his huge ego and his lack of experience he'll be an easy mark for the sharks and barracudas.

Vodkavich, are your mothers (pardon the horrid word) Conservatives?

Obama's so wrapped up in his ego it's not funny, of course it never was.

They say Nero played the fiddle while Rome burned. Perhaps the same will happen to America? Hmmm. . .?

[off]I share the red feline's feelings. I remember being thanked even though I had gotten no further than California and felt the worse for it. In fact, I get angry everytime I remember I can't go. Don't forget that the majority of this country respects and supports you, ignore the vocal minority. God help any radical that hassles a service member within earshot of me.

Commissar Theocritus wrote: Laika thinks that O is scared shitless, and Laika has had governmental experience and says he knows the look.

I would have to agree Laika. More than just fleeting facial expressions though, his Clinton appointments speak to his need to be surrounded by people who know what they are doing. His press conference, the inability to speak off the cuff about anything in detail. Pre-election he was the man to bring fresh ideas to DC, post-election he's delegating the job of ideas to others. I've been in sales for 15 years and I can tell immediately when someone doesn't know the subject material but it's more than that. Like Carter, he did not expect to get the nomination or win the election but he did learn from Carter's 4 years so he brought in Rahm to run the whole show. What scares me is the silent partner that financed his election, how is that person invested? I'm betting those investments favor a strong EU and a weak US. Soros betting against the dollar in favor of a strong Euro, replacing the dollar as reserve currency worldwide. Why else would you appoint someone like Geithner to Sec Treasury, you have to have a fall guy - having a press conference to announce you don't have any details on the bank bailout? Now where did I leave my tinfoil hat?

An interesting take on Geithner. You know that Soros made his billions trashing the British pound, forcing it out of the ERM. The Euro started I believe at parity with the dollar and then sank to 85¢. It's gotten up to $1.26. The British pound had been $2 for years. It's now $1.42.

But Mark Steyn's depressing booming sepulchral tones about demography will win out. He says that demography is all, and he's (nearly) completely right. There is 1.1 Spanish child per autochthonous woman; in Italy it's 1.3 and Greece 1.2. Or I may have some switched. In 35 years the average Spaniard, Italian and Greek will have no brothers or aunts or uncles or cousins. The Spaniard sneer, "We work to live; the Americans live to work." Admittedly they are not the strongest European countries. But they, like all the others, are welfare states which have to supported by Ponzi schemes. And who will pay for them?

As the AARP shows, the greedy geezers will mortgage their children's future in a heart beat. (I qualify for AARP and send the prepaid envelopes back empty with glee.) So the only people will be immigrants. Muslim immigrants. Who are authoritarian owing to Islam's strictures, and that militates against any sort of wealth creation.

Europe leading the way? If I have plums and you want to buy them, unless they are one of the n various legal sizes, it's a crime for us to buy and sell. A British grocer committed a crime by selling bananas by the pound. If you want to buy plywood you cannot buy 4'x8'. Because small aircraft parts are denominated in inches, to sell a 1/4" bolt you have to put the 1/4" somewhere in the description and hide it.

Europe becoming an economic powerhouse when most of the laws issue from essentially unelected Federasts in Brussels? In a union set up by the most bureaucratic of all free or quasi-free European nations, France? Where the last minister of labor or that equivalent, to reduce unemployment suggested that work time be cut to about half and that the companies just hire more? Yes, <i>that</i> pig stupid.

Just like Billdo and W- not wielding power but instead drawing attention away from those who do. Zaphod was a lot less square. Hell, even Milhouse from The Simpsons looks like a hoopy frood compared to The One. He peddled his ass around so well during the campaign but then lost his ability to trick shit out with monosyllabic words. Stimulus is too many syllables. Therein lies the problem, I guess. His miserable attempt at gaining support for the spendulus showed his ass too much. "If we don't pass this, 5 million more Americans will lose their jobs." Yeah, says who, buddy? You can't even tell me the shit that's in that mound of paper but you can tell me what will happen if it's not passed? And how do you aim to execute this spending? Writing more bills? Creating an Obamissar of Spending? It's all well and good to have Pelosivich write "5 million for science" on a pretty paper and then anoint it with your semen, but how does that convert to action? How do you know that by rolling 3 dice with numbers and flipping a coin with "million" on one side and "billion" on the other and rolling/flipping to ascribe a dollar amount to every item on the liberal wish list you're going to save shit?

ARGH!

Vodkavich wrote:You can't even tell me the shit that's in that mound of paper but you can tell me what will happen if it's not passed?

Ah, Obamissar, you have toppled to a true Progressive Secret. There was a moonbat progressive book on the species that we are losing to the deforestation of the Amazon. And other places. It was in one place a thousand species a year and in another a hundred a day. I do apologize for having studied math in the jurassic era, but isn't that off by a magnitude of 36.5? But it feels really good to say that.

And the coolest, pardon, kewlest thing, is that the only thing that we know about them is <i>that they're disappearing</i>.

I love that. You can't disprove it; it has no predictive power, and so it could be true. And therefore there's utterly no reason that we ought not take complete advantage of it to seize even more things.

I had this nice long post but for some reason I keep getting involuntarily logged out on my laptop. To the point, it's not Europe/EU leading the way, that's like trying to herd cats, no you make them winner by default. Take the U.S. econmoy in a deep recession, add a President with no executive experience signing a bill that will cause skyrocketing inflation. Add to that future diplomatic mis-steps he has yet to execute and you have the recipe for a stampede. Two questions come to mind:

Would the Democrats allow Freddi/Fannie to implode to create the conditions necessary to swing the election? Yes, I think they would. They already had both houses but they needed the bully pulpit of the Presidency to re-make the country in their own image. Who's going to call them out on it? CNN, NYT, MSNBC? They have all he cover they need.

Why would one of the richest men in the world invest so deeply in the last two elections? I don't believe that Soros has an altruistic bone in his body, he only cares about the return on his money. He's not after "shovel ready" peanut money projects. A man like Soros does not drop that kind of coin without a solid position from which to profit.

This was more cohearent the first time I wrote/lost it. It's late and I'm tired.

I think that people who can afford what house/car/plane they want soon decide to purchase other things--and that's power. I have had some very lean years but over the last few things have been good. And I've been astonished to find that with a few coins to rub together all sorts of doors open to me. Fancy cars, hotels, restaurants, art galleries, and I am really small fry in this.

If this is quotidian, and you have all the art on the walls that you want, and you have a restless streak, what would you do? Buy power. Become a liberal democrat. Get to remake people.

Slavery by other means.

How about cutting a check to your dear friend Speaker (President) Nancy Pelosi, Theocritus? How about you hand deliver it to me. Yes! We can have a sleep over! Yes! Yes! Bring Bruno! Bring Bruno over with you! I have a swimming pool with faulty electrical wiring running through it that Bruno can busy himself with while we, errhmm, cash the check, so to speak. Oh! Oh! I'll invite Hill over!

I forgot to mention that he did an interview sometime before he testified before Congress last Fall. He admitted to holding a position against the dollar but the info babe asking the questions did not delve into the subject.

Oh, Mistress Nansky, Speakerette and Presidentette, she with her hand up the ass of His O'liness. You do tempt me. I like the swimming pool idea a <i>lot</i>. I've tried and tried to lose Bruno but he just--comes back. Once I drove him to Montana, telling him that there was a Prada outlet there. I left him 80 miles southeast of Billings, and drove back as fast as possible and the last I saw of him was him, with his luggage (fool took it out) on the side of the road, 7' tall in the platform shoes and the mangoes on his head.

I drove like the blazes to get back to the Rancho and as I opened the front door, lo and behold, there was Bruno in a new act: He was dressed like Ethel Merman singing, "There's NO business like SHOW business," and for him it was a good act. It peeled the paint. He's a homing queen, dear Speakerette, a Homing Queen.

Then I got my Amex bill and saw the gas charges for the road trip to Montana, along with a charge to Federico's of Tijuana, on a brand new Amex card for I'd reported the other one compromised. Well, he'd been sucking on it so it was compromised.

So a little electrical pool party would suit me fine.

As long as I get to go home after that. The last time I was over there you wanted me to give you a facial, do you remember? Why, I don't know. I don't know squat about cosmetics except how much they cost. On an Amex bill. But I tried.

As you recall, we worked for 11 hours with a putty knife digging the Sherwin Williams out of the wrinkles on your face and I was amazed to find chest hair on a woman. "Theocritus," you laughed, "that's not chest hair. I just had my eight face lift."

Pardon me, Premier Betty, while I redistribute your phrase:

EWWWWWWWWWWWWW!!!!!

-OV

Vodkavich, you don't know the cross that I bear. At least once a week I have to tell either Our Many Titted Empress or Miss Nansky, "Just a second. [I'm getting brave here.] I may be gay but you forget that I don't know squat about cosmetics. I'm a <i>mathematician</i> by training. I'll help you cook the books but I won't spackle your puss."