The best assessment of current intelligence I have so far seen:
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/0 ... -purposes/
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/0 ... -purposes/
Something like that, but with the addition of the typical dilettantism and bone-headed lack of quality and integrity that has pervaded both public and private sector professions since the 1970s.jackalopelipsky wrote: ↑3/11/2023, 8:04 pm
very accurate description of what happens when Institutions are under the control of Alinsky players. Everything is a repeated and unchecked lie with zero accountability. What could possibly go wrong when such activity is fixed policy? Deceit and treachery against their own nation, becomes a point of honor and integrity.
Our enemies are more than happy to watch Alinsky Institution players go nihilist on their own people and culture.
Colonel Obyezyana wrote: ↑3/11/2023, 8:31 pmSomething like that, but with the addition of the typical dilettantism and bone-headed lack of quality and integrity that has pervaded both public and private sector professions since the 1970s.jackalopelipsky wrote: ↑3/11/2023, 8:04 pm
very accurate description of what happens when Institutions are under the control of Alinsky players. Everything is a repeated and unchecked lie with zero accountability. What could possibly go wrong when such activity is fixed policy? Deceit and treachery against their own nation, becomes a point of honor and integrity.
Our enemies are more than happy to watch Alinsky Institution players go nihilist on their own people and culture.
Red Square wrote: ↑3/12/2023, 12:15 amI'm sorry, Colonel -- and let me assure you that I'm being completely sincere and honest here -- but this definitely NOT what you think it is.
To begin with, "Larry Johnson" is a fake name - you'll find nothing about him except a bunch of lying pro-Russian articles about the war in Ukraine. I have crossed paths with him in the past, and it has been my conviction for quite some time that he is a lying slimebag of the worst order, and quite possibly a paid asset of the Kremlin. I don't assume that about every defender of the Moscow line, some may act quite altruistically, but in case of Larry Johnson I have no doubt he is dirty.
The "article" makes many false statements and assumptions, which I don't have the time nor any desire to debunk in detail, because for his kind, making up new lies to replace the debunked lies is easy, and one shouldn't go mud-wrestling with a pig.
Perhaps the most important trick here is that this "Johnson" appeals to the self-doubt of the Western mind and uses its misinformation fatigue to manipulate it to believe that everything this mind knows about the world is false.
"Bluntly, Larry Johnson's writing is not the sincere attempt to understand a complex reality, but rather, it has become the tool to falsify a nuanced reality in order to attempt to manipulate the American psyche towards a collective defeatism (in respect not just to Russia, but to the idea that the West should remain united against rogue actors)."
Comrade Square, your response is revelatory to say the least. Your first paragraph is a character assassination wherein you kill the messenger, “Larry Johnson,” with an ad hominem attack as a means of discrediting everything he says. That is a poor rhetorical device that both undermines your ethos and fails to invalidate some or all of the points he makes.
Clara Illbustyourballs Zetkin wrote: ↑3/12/2023, 7:39 amFifty plus years of ignoring "bread and circuses" and paying attention has taught me that NOTHING is as it is portrayed.
Now I can see clearly which administrations were INSTALLED stealthily (present administration excepted) right under the noses of the American people because future proves past.
The present illegitimate administration does not fall into the stealth category because they blatantly cheated it right up in everybody's face with no shame whatsoever. They were so desperate to cheat it that they left evidence and anomalies of their cheating all over the place. They made America go through hell in the process. So I have a REAL PROBLEM with EVERY direction we're being led, foreign and domestic, by a bunch of criminal traitors from BOTH sides of the aisle, that should have been in GITMO decades ago.
AND TO TOP IT OFF, I know we wouldn't be in any of these messes if our legitimate POTUS had not been blatantly cheated out.
Our constitution is the only thing that has been saving us and that is the thing the criminals running everything want to get rid of the most. SCOTUS is dangling by a thread with more Alinsky followers being installed. DOJ and FBI are totally compromised at the top so no one is coming to save us. Political prisoners rotting in jail with NO DUE PROCESS over the Jan. 6 false flag contrived by these same people is one of many proofs of that.
As the oversight hearings expose more and more of these people's lies and crimes, get prepared. These people will intentionally burn this country to the ground in any way possible to save their evil asses.
Truth like cream rises to the top.
I am glad someone else in the Kollective follows 'hearings'. I NEVER miss them. If I am unable to watch live, I stream them later which has it's advantages because it saves time fast forwarding when the dimokrauts open their mouth.jackalopelipsky wrote: ↑3/12/2023, 7:39 pmThere is fighting going on in The Culture War Room, comrades. If Red Square is good enough to inform 'pelipsky to be sure and keep the Laika tin foil hat protecting the mythical jackalope brain from the penetrating culturerays of "Larry Johnson". that's good enough for 'pelipsky. There was always that niggling, better wear Laika protective headgear when listening to LJ, anyway. Confirmation is good. Thank you.
If not for TPC Laika protective headgear worn by journalist. Matt Taibbi. the penetratingly dumb interrogation conducted by Rep. Sylvia Garcia (Texazistan) could have damaged Matt Taibbi's brain synapses.
And, since Texazistan is USSA's Step-Ukraine, Lindsey Graham is ready to roll tanks into Mexico, to stop the Chinese FAKE Fentanyl Central American Cartel Ninjas becoming rich, Russian oligarchs purchasing Mexico. like they did in Ukraine.
'pelipsky hopes Putin, and Lindsey Graham, fail, before The Collective falls into another Viet Nam quagmire.
It's been well known below the Mason-Dixon Line for decades that the SPLC is itself a terrorist organization.
Colonel Obyezyana wrote: ↑3/12/2023, 1:03 pmComrade Square, your response is revelatory to say the least. Your first paragraph is a character assassination wherein you kill the messenger, “Larry Johnson,” with an ad hominem attack as a means of discrediting everything he says. That is a poor rhetorical device that both undermines your ethos and fails to invalidate some or all of the points he makes.
You assert he made many false claims and assumptions, yet you evade proving that assertion by stating you “don’t have the time.” This weakens whatever argument you make.
You continue the ad hominem attack by attributing the concepts of “appeals to the self-doubt of the Western mind” and “misinformation fatigue” to Johnson in a further attempt to inject doubt in some or all of the points he made. The “Western mind” is a conceptual generalization that falsely assumes monolithic thought among westerners, as is the ever-unprovable “information fatigue” idea.
You go on to shakier ground by then using the doubtful “Western mind” generalization to declare that you are immune to “manipulative tricks.” That is certainly true if—by manipulative tricks—you mean information or opinion that conflicts with a “Ukraine First” world view.
Whatever faults you find with LJ, he at least has experience in the field of intelligence gathering and analysis, but rather than waste any more time on his character, let’s look at the value of information itself and what it’s used for.
For human sources of information to be worthwhile they must impartially supply subjective information. It doesn’t matter how many sources you have or where they are if the information they supply is distorted by prejudice or inability to even know whether their information contains or lacks significant value. In the intelligence community, such information is scrutinized, evaluated and rated for plausibility.
Collateral or “third party” information (news media reportage and hearsay) is considered the least reliable of all. It doesn’t matter what you read or hear if the sources are state-controlled, politically motivated or simply amateurish and unprofessional. CNN is an example. For years, with its monopoly on TV screens at foreign airports, CNN constantly portrayed the U.S. negatively, leaving many foreign viewers with a broad impression that Americans are fat, idiotic Walmart shoppers who live on McDonalds food, drive monster trucks and kill Black people for sport. That was the worthless and unreliable result of bad journalism.
So, after gathering anecdotal information from all these “sources,” to what purpose do you put it? Certainly you are not presenting this information as vital intelligence to any agency or body that would find it actionable or even useful. It may satisfy the constant human hunger for new information, but to what end other than that? Probably affirmation of convictions already held.
Some obsess over news surrounding Ukraine and Russia the same way NFL fans follow teams and players even though they themselves never set foot on the field or touch a ball. From the safety of the bleachers, it’s easy to shout out second-guess calls that the referees and players neither hear nor care about, but doing so doesn’t move the ball down the field. It’s gossip and chatter, like static on a radio.
The bigger, bolder picture is writ large and with little nuance needed: Ukraine was illegally invaded by Russia and American Democrats and RINOs want to make it the hill we die on and damn the consequences.
Instead of playing a futile game of amateur intelligence collection, it is wiser to chart and promote a reasonable course of action to end hostilities as peacefully as possible and not cheerlead for a limitless, open-ended, unsustainable aid pipeline that lacks a clear, fully articulated and rational endgame.
When you treat those who disagree as uninformed cattle grazing on propaganda that only you and your social circle are immune to, don’t be surprised to hear objections raised, feel pushback and see support slip away. Pitting a “Ukraine First” mindset against an “America First” sentiment is a losing tactic that helps no one.
Comrade, you were being greenpilled.jackalopelipsky wrote: ↑3/13/2023, 8:22 am‘pelipsky admits to being the mythical mind of enforced Western self doubt, Colonel. ‘pelipsky’s mythical mind has undergone decades of Alinsky Treatment at the Institute of Family. Treatment ordered according to SPLC fund raising letter, because all comrades knew ‘pelipsky obviously suffered from being a closed minded, illiterate, bigot, so allowing conversation to emanate from this deluded, hopelessly programmed hard brain was carefully silenced. No mind-numbed horned lagomorph was going to change the SPLC’s sociological assessment of the only free thinking minds operating the Alinsky Institute. ‘pelipsky was a terrorist to their institutional thinking. Every comrade knew this was true because the SPLC told them so. Of course, these same Alinsky Institute graduates have careers in USSA Deep State Institution, delivering the same care ‘pelipsky received, to Ukrainian jackalopes.
Western self doubt is the cure at the Alinsky Institute which treats Jackalopelipsky as a cross hared threat to the SPLC.
Colonel Obyezyana wrote: ↑3/13/2023, 1:20 pmComrade, you were being greenpilled.jackalopelipsky wrote: ↑3/13/2023, 8:22 am‘pelipsky admits to being the mythical mind of enforced Western self doubt, Colonel. ‘pelipsky’s mythical mind has undergone decades of Alinsky Treatment at the Institute of Family. Treatment ordered according to SPLC fund raising letter, because all comrades knew ‘pelipsky obviously suffered from being a closed minded, illiterate, bigot, so allowing conversation to emanate from this deluded, hopelessly programmed hard brain was carefully silenced. No mind-numbed horned lagomorph was going to change the SPLC’s sociological assessment of the only free thinking minds operating the Alinsky Institute. ‘pelipsky was a terrorist to their institutional thinking. Every comrade knew this was true because the SPLC told them so. Of course, these same Alinsky Institute graduates have careers in USSA Deep State Institution, delivering the same care ‘pelipsky received, to Ukrainian jackalopes.
Western self doubt is the cure at the Alinsky Institute which treats Jackalopelipsky as a cross hared threat to the SPLC.
Anyone that doesn't want to be DUPED by the kurrent NWO criminal infiltrators occupying the WH with 'Nudge, Nudge, Wink, Wink reality distortion technique' needs to memorize these words and what they really mean.Komissar al-Blogunov wrote: ↑3/13/2023, 11:03 amSpeaking of Nudge Reality, here's an interesting Cold War Era training film by the SIS on how to identify foreign spies using the Nudge, Nudge, Wink, Wink reality distortion technique.
Hence, memes.Clara Illbustyourballs Zetkin wrote: ↑3/15/2023, 5:16 amAnyone that doesn't want to be DUPED by the kurrent NWO criminal infiltrators occupying the WH with 'Nudge, Nudge, Wink, Wink reality distortion technique' needs to memorize these words and what they really mean.
Absolutely Col. O, sources are VERY IMPORTANT.Colonel Obyezyana wrote: ↑3/15/2023, 10:38 amHence, memes.Clara Illbustyourballs Zetkin wrote: ↑3/15/2023, 5:16 amAnyone that doesn't want to be DUPED by the kurrent NWO criminal infiltrators occupying the WH with 'Nudge, Nudge, Wink, Wink reality distortion technique' needs to memorize these words and what they really mean.
Clara Illbustyourballs Zetkin wrote: ↑3/15/2023, 12:03 pmAbsolutely Col. O, sources are VERY IMPORTANT.Colonel Obyezyana wrote: ↑3/15/2023, 10:38 amHence, memes.Clara Illbustyourballs Zetkin wrote: ↑3/15/2023, 5:16 amAnyone that doesn't want to be DUPED by the kurrent NWO criminal infiltrators occupying the WH with 'Nudge, Nudge, Wink, Wink reality distortion technique' needs to memorize these words and what they really mean.
My favorite sources are the ones sitting at the tables in, Senate, House, joint, or special committee of Congress hearings, that are under OATH and can see a jail cell door banging them in the ass for perjury when and if they lie.
And the ones that come as a result of FOIA requests.
You know, the sources you can see and hear with your own lying eyes and ears.
Colonel Obyezyana wrote: ↑3/12/2023, 1:03 pmComrade Square, your response is revelatory to say the least. Your first paragraph is a character assassination wherein you kill the messenger, “Larry Johnson,” with an ad hominem attack as a means of discrediting everything he says. That is a poor rhetorical device that both undermines your ethos and fails to invalidate some or all of the points he makes.
You assert he made many false claims and assumptions, yet you evade proving that assertion by stating you “don’t have the time.” This weakens whatever argument you make.
You continue the ad hominem attack by attributing the concepts of “appeals to the self-doubt of the Western mind” and “misinformation fatigue” to Johnson in a further attempt to inject doubt in some or all of the points he made. The “Western mind” is a conceptual generalization that falsely assumes monolithic thought among westerners, as is the ever-unprovable “information fatigue” idea.
You go on to shakier ground by then using the doubtful “Western mind” generalization to declare that you are immune to “manipulative tricks.” That is certainly true if—by manipulative tricks—you mean information or opinion that conflicts with a “Ukraine First” world view.
Whatever faults you find with LJ, he at least has experience in the field of intelligence gathering and analysis, but rather than waste any more time on his character, let’s look at the value of information itself and what it’s used for.
For human sources of information to be worthwhile they must impartially supply subjective information. It doesn’t matter how many sources you have or where they are if the information they supply is distorted by prejudice or inability to even know whether their information contains or lacks significant value. In the intelligence community, such information is scrutinized, evaluated and rated for plausibility.
Collateral or “third party” information (news media reportage and hearsay) is considered the least reliable of all. It doesn’t matter what you read or hear if the sources are state-controlled, politically motivated or simply amateurish and unprofessional. CNN is an example. For years, with its monopoly on TV screens at foreign airports, CNN constantly portrayed the U.S. negatively, leaving many foreign viewers with a broad impression that Americans are fat, idiotic Walmart shoppers who live on McDonalds food, drive monster trucks and kill Black people for sport. That was the worthless and unreliable result of bad journalism.
So, after gathering anecdotal information from all these “sources,” to what purpose do you put it? Certainly you are not presenting this information as vital intelligence to any agency or body that would find it actionable or even useful. It may satisfy the constant human hunger for new information, but to what end other than that? Probably affirmation of convictions already held.
Some obsess over news surrounding Ukraine and Russia the same way NFL fans follow teams and players even though they themselves never set foot on the field or touch a ball. From the safety of the bleachers, it’s easy to shout out second-guess calls that the referees and players neither hear nor care about, but doing so doesn’t move the ball down the field. It’s gossip and chatter, like static on a radio.
The bigger, bolder picture is writ large and with little nuance needed: Ukraine was illegally invaded by Russia and American Democrats and RINOs want to make it the hill we die on and damn the consequences.
Instead of playing a futile game of amateur intelligence collection, it is wiser to chart and promote a reasonable course of action to end hostilities as peacefully as possible and not cheerlead for a limitless, open-ended, unsustainable aid pipeline that lacks a clear, fully articulated and rational endgame.
When you treat those who disagree as uninformed cattle grazing on propaganda that only you and your social circle are immune to, don’t be surprised to hear objections raised, feel pushback and see support slip away. Pitting a “Ukraine First” mindset against an “America First” sentiment is a losing tactic that helps no one.
jackalopelipsky wrote: ↑3/15/2023, 2:26 pmClara Illbustyourballs Zetkin wrote: ↑3/15/2023, 12:03 pmColonel Obyezyana wrote: ↑3/15/2023, 10:38 amClara Illbustyourballs Zetkin wrote: ↑3/15/2023, 5:16 am
Anyone that doesn't want to be DUPED by the kurrent NWO criminal infiltrators occupying the WH with 'Nudge, Nudge, Wink, Wink reality distortion technique' needs to memorize these words and what they really mean.
My favorite sources are the ones sitting at the tables in, Senate, House, joint, or special committee of Congress hearings, that are under OATH and can see a jail cell door banging them in the ass for perjury when and if they lie.
And the ones that come as a result of FOIA requests.
You know, the sources you can see and hear with your own lying eyes and ears.
That’s what’s so beautiful about Sources maintaining they know nothing about anything, CIZ! No perjury gonna slap their butts in a jail cell. Padded cells, only, please.
Colonel Obyezyana wrote: ↑3/16/2023, 6:47 am
Those with the bombast to dismiss conflicting views as the uniformed opinions of propagandized conservatives, then cry when their bombast is exposed and ridiculed, deserve the responses they get.
I won't, even though you've lost your arms and legs.Komissar al-Blogunov wrote: ↑3/16/2023, 4:17 pmColonel Obyezyana wrote: ↑3/16/2023, 6:47 am
Those with the bombast to dismiss conflicting views as the uniformed opinions of propagandized conservatives, then cry when their bombast is exposed and ridiculed, deserve the responses they get.
Colonel Obyezyana wrote: ↑3/16/2023, 7:57 pmI won't, even though you've lost your arms and legs.Komissar al-Blogunov wrote: ↑3/16/2023, 4:17 pmColonel Obyezyana wrote: ↑3/16/2023, 6:47 am
Those with the bombast to dismiss conflicting views as the uniformed opinions of propagandized conservatives, then cry when their bombast is exposed and ridiculed, deserve the responses they get.
Look at the company you keep:
Komissar al-Blogunov wrote: ↑3/20/2023, 11:09 amColonel Obyezyana wrote: ↑3/16/2023, 7:57 pmI won't, even though you've lost your arms and legs.Komissar al-Blogunov wrote: ↑3/16/2023, 4:17 pmColonel Obyezyana wrote: ↑3/16/2023, 6:47 am
Those with the bombast to dismiss conflicting views as the uniformed opinions of propagandized conservatives, then cry when their bombast is exposed and ridiculed, deserve the responses they get.
Look at the company you keep:
On the other hand, if Trump became pro-Ukraine, 80% of followers would suddenly discover that they like Zelensky. That's the problem with tribalism and stubborn pride regardless of which side displays it, objective truth becomes irrelevant.
jackalopelipsky wrote: ↑3/20/2023, 12:11 pmKomissar al-Blogunov wrote: ↑3/20/2023, 11:09 amColonel Obyezyana wrote: ↑3/16/2023, 7:57 pmI won't, even though you've lost your arms and legs.
Look at the company you keep:
On the other hand, if Trump became pro-Ukraine, 80% of followers would suddenly discover that they like Zelensky. That's the problem with tribalism and stubborn pride regardless of which side displays it, objective truth becomes irrelevant.
When has any comrade been anti-Ukraine? How has Trump been anti-Ukraine? 'pelipsky has nearly been Alinsky'd out of existence by tribalism and stubborn pride right here in USSA, which makes hanging on to objective truth all the more relevant. It is shameful, the degree to which a bunch of Alinsky'ites in State Department, have created this tragedy over decades. We do not trust anyone in the Biden Administration to have Ukraine's best interest as a sovereign nation, anymore than we trust them to have ours, here at home. Making fun of us for bearing that kind of moral humiliation as an objective truth, is not comradely.
Should 'pelipsky organize a bake sale to contribute fair share to the war effort?
Komissar al-Blogunov wrote: ↑3/20/2023, 12:27 pmjackalopelipsky wrote: ↑3/20/2023, 12:11 pmKomissar al-Blogunov wrote: ↑3/20/2023, 11:09 am[quote="Colonel Obyezyana" post_id=247074 time=1679011053 user_id=13584
Should 'pelipsky organize a bake sale to contribute fair share to the war effort?
I hope that's satisfactory. But please proceed with the bake sale in any case. I like beet pastries.
At last, something positive for Ukraine. Comrades will come from all across the USSA to attend Jackalopelipsky’s Bake Sale!! Spread the word Al Blogunov. This could be another great TPC Resistance Event.
[/quote]jackalopelipsky wrote: ↑3/20/2023, 2:28 pmKomissar al-Blogunov wrote: ↑3/20/2023, 12:27 pmjackalopelipsky wrote: ↑3/20/2023, 12:11 pmKomissar al-Blogunov wrote: ↑3/20/2023, 11:09 am[quote="Colonel Obyezyana" post_id=247074 time=1679011053 user_id=13584
I hope that's satisfactory. But please proceed with the bake sale in any case. I like beet pastries.
At last, something positive for Ukraine. Comrades will come from all across the USSA to attend Jackalopelipsky’s Bake Sale!! Spread the word Al Blogunov. This could be another great TPC Resistance Event.
Komissar al-Blogunov wrote: ↑3/20/2023, 12:27 pmI like beet pastries.
Komissar al-Blogunov wrote: ↑3/20/2023, 12:27 pm
Trump's position is to stop the war now and negotiate. He's even said that in the worst case he would let Putin keep some of Ukraine.
Trump has no power to "let" Putin do anything at all, but an end to hostilities would give Ukraine a chance to refresh, regroup, and acquire NATO membership rather than losing more personnel and land to grinding attrition. Fighting to the last man is a reckless strategy. Knowing limitations, temporarily allowing retrievable losses and choosing winnable battles is sound strategy.
Desantis calls this war a "territorial dispute" and in spite of what I like about him, he fails to see this in the bigger picture, at least for now.
Once again, you present yourself as endowed with sole access to "the bigger picture" as if no one else is equipped or capable of seeing a "bigger picture" if it conflicts with yours. Such hubris is practically sociopathic in its pompousness and conceit.
Tucker Carlson is exactly in tune with the Kremlin, and intelligent people like Tulsi Gabbard, who should know better, repeat his allegations.
Carlson's tune is his own but many share it not because of propaganda but because they can see what you refuse to see. You choose to characterize it as aligned with the Kremlin because you cannot accept any other tune but yours, and you once again imply that someone expressing a view other than yours should "know better" (express a view congruent with yours).
I'm speaking in broad terms, and I honestly don't have any Cubist in mind, not even CO in our current dispute.
There would be no dispute if you would—at last—concede that valid views—other than yours and by people with better information and experience—exist and should be considered on merit and utility rather than a belief that history is destined to repeat itself. A wise man does not latch onto one view and close his mind to all others, especially by dismissing other views as wholly the product of ignorance and propagandization.
The point of my comment was that tribalism blinds, and that both sides are vulnerable to it. I've fallen into it to my own embarrassment, and I'm trying to see things based on their own objective merit rather than gauge them by who supports them.
A modest admission, Comrade, and hopefully a step toward a more rational approach. I bear no animosity to anyone here, but it's not good policy to crown oneself as omniscient while stating that opposing positions are inferior, defective or influenced by propaganda: only narcissists believe that no one can be smarter or better informed than themselves.
I hope that's satisfactory.
I hope that we're done now.
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